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Wile E. Coyote
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Can you name any other line of work whereby the employee would not be suspended after the employer was told?
Actually you probably could.
The problem is that if this was the fella who was the club mascot, he would have been suspended but as it wasn't, it was a star player, they decided to keep him playing and then try and negotiate his contract renewal.......
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Mick Harper
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The Saudis have reportedly offered eighty million for the services of Gabriel Martinelli. He is thoroughly surplus to Arsenal's left-wing requirements and they would bite their own arm off to do the deal.
But will Martinelli play ball? No, he would prefer to sit in the Emirates' stand for a coupla seasons. You can't blame him even though you hate him for doing so.
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Mick Harper
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In: London
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June 2022 Thomas Partey arrested for four rapes and one sexual assault
June 2025 Thomas Partey's contract with Arsenal ends
June 2025 Thomas Partey charged with the offences by the Crown Prosecution Service
Yes, I know what you're thinking. Keir Starmer is
(a) the British Prime Minister
(b) the ex-head of the Crown Prosecution Service
(c) a rabid Arsenal supporter
Grossly irrelevant. The CPS appreciated that Partey could and probably would leave British jurisdiction when his contract ended, but not before.
Oh, I see, you think Arsenal should have suspended him in 2022. True, they might have done, but if the CPS had decided not to press charges (or if Partey were to be found not guilty at trial) they would have been liable for tens of millions of pounds in unpaid wages and associated damages.
Yes, they probably should have.
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Mick Harper
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In: London
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We're in the final now
We're in the final now
Ee-aye-addio
We're in the final now.
By 'we' I mean Chelsea in the World Club Championship and irrespective of whether they prove to be the best team on the planet or merely the second best, they will certainly need watching out for in the Premier League next season. If you're Tottenham or somesuch.
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Mick Harper
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In: London
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Dudley born-and-bred Ben Healy won a thrilling stage of the Tour de France yesterday and is now the only Brit in the top ten on GC. (Oscar Onley is only eleventh.) I couldn't care less. Healey rides for Ireland. It's like Clodah Rodgers winning the Eurovision Song Contest in reverse.
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Wile E. Coyote
In: Arizona
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| Mick Harper wrote: | | Yes, they probably should have. |
If Arsenal accept they have safeguarding duries to employees (and presumably they do have some women employees), they really should have suspended Partey on full pay in 2022. They would not have known this was going to take another three years to investigate. For most employers this would be sensible, you would get the "Human Resources" type advice: advice. along the lines of "we can't expose other employees to the risk, and think about the reputational damage if we don't, and he is found guilty..... or if there is now a further incident with an employee or lifelong supporter, etc".
We don't know what has happened, but I guess someone senior in the club will have pushed back against the HR advice.........
If found guilty (he is presumed innocent, few cases are successfully prosecuted, etc), dependent on what the club knew you could be looking at losing a lot of sponsorship.......your business is your name.
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Mick Harper
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In: London
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| Wiley wrote: | | they really should have suspended Partey on full pay in 2022 |
They should have suspended him without pay (or pay held in escrow). We learned that from the Huw Edwards case. Professional football is one of the few jobs where being suspended on full pay is a punishment. Most of us would be only too delighted. And, as it happens, punishing to the employer too. Errant policemen, for example, are not on several million a year.
| They would not have known this was going to take another three years to investigate. |
I'm sure they would. Any legal adviser would have told them it's par for the course.
| For most employers this would be sensible, you would get the "Human Resources" type advice: advice. along the lines of "we can't expose other employees to the risk ... or if there is now a further incident with an employee or lifelong supporter, etc". |
There was no risk to other employees or lifelong supporters. More risk to women in general if Partey is left stewing at home, I would have thought.
| ... and think about the reputational damage if we don't and he is found guilty..... |
Actually this is incidental. As we know from Greenwood et al, employers are judged solely by the suitability of their actions when the matter is first raised.
| You could be looking at losing a lot of sponsorship.......your business is your name. |
I wish that were true. Sponsors are like fans, they know the brouhaha will be fish and chip wrapping shortly. It's a results-oriented business.
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Wile E. Coyote
In: Arizona
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They would not have known this was going to take another three years to investigate.
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I'm sure they would. Any legal adviser would have told them it's par for the course.
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If this results in a prosecution, and him being found or maybe pleading guilty, then I reckon we will see a big resignation to try and recover reputation.
Certainly did in Adam Johnston's case. Johnston pleaded guilty to kissing and grooming a 15-year old and got 6 years. Sunderland had to make a grovelling apology for suspending, but then allowing Johston back. The CEO had to resign, not HR or their legal department.
"Throughout this deeply regretful situation, we recognise that one devoted young fan and her family have been very badly let down, first and foremost by Mr Johnson and his despicable actions, but also by the club they support.
"We are so very sorry for this." |
Arsenal must have known in 2022 that this could get a lot worse quickly, in the light of any new information. Sunderland were badly caught out when Johnson suddenly pleaded guilty, and then also admitted that he had told the club about incriminating texts.
This could get really really bad for Arsenal.
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Mick Harper
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In: London
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Yes, I see this. However one important factor--though it ought not to be--is that Partey is a foreigner. Somehow--and it beats me how--the optics are quite different when someone pitches up here (from Ghana via Spain) does the dirties and is then pitchforked off (back to abroad or into the jug).
When you think about Greenwood or Johnson (or the Celtic case) there is a sense of 'it's home grown', 'it's in our backyard', 'it has to be rooted out not covered up'. Partey is just 'one bad apple'. A shrug, a rap on the knuckles (for Arsenal) and all's right with the world.
Also, taking this (possibly fanciful because of my subjectivity) theme further, Arsenal is different from United, Sunderland and Celtic. It is a spaceship landed in our midst. It is forever 'other'. The others are warp and woof. There must, after all, be some explanation for why 'the Partey story' has not been much of a story.
But as you say, it may just be a matter of time.
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Wile E. Coyote
In: Arizona
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I would argue its the other way around, Arsenal has evolved into a global/establishment/celebrity as well as working class type of club. These folks as well as sponsors are going to run a mile at the sign of bad publicity, and whether guilty or not, the next year or so is now going to be be dominated by bad publicity. Do Sir Keir, Harry, Piers, Sir Mo Farah Qatar et al think it was a good decision to start negotiations on a new contract, or not to suspend.
It appears that Arsenal knew. (almost certain) or did they not even do a few basic Google searches.
As a famous celebrity or sponsor do you want opposition fans shouting "no means no" constantly during your games?
Next year in total ruin already.
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