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Wile E. Coyote
In: Arizona
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This is fairly weird. The idea was Iran would stop striking Israel at midnight (eastern time), and Israel was expected to stop striking Iran 12 hours after that. Then, after another 12 hours, the war would be considered "over" by all.
So the Iranians potentially had got another additional 12 hours of strikes to endure even after they were expected to finish?
Maybe this accounts for why the Iranians are still firing ballistic missiles at Israel, after the time they were supposed to stop.
Anyway Israel is going to retaliate.
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Wile E. Coyote
In: Arizona
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This desire to end wars on behalf of Team Trump is admirable, but the way he does it, ie "in a day" "announced by tweet" "agreed by one party (his mate) whilst imposed on the other (the one that he publicly humiliates)", might not be the absolute best way of going about it........?
The jury is still out for Wiley.
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Mick Harper
Site Admin
In: London
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doo... doo... doo... dateline 10 am Ladbroke Grove time
Israel and Iran are anxious to get in their last strike last so it cannot be said the ceasefire has arrived. Iran were a bit unlucky in that their after-time (but after whose time, and is it when you launch or when it hits?) strike killed five Israelis in an Ashdod block of flats so that means 5 x the current quotient of Muslims must die in their turn.
The PR spin isn't helping:
* According to the Americans, Iran and Israel came cap in hand to the Great Man begging him to end the conflict.
* According to the Iranians, the Americans came begging to them etc etc
* According to the Israelis, Netanyahu informed Trump they'd pretty much wrapped it up so he was free to act the Great Peacemaker.
According to my synthesis of the news reporting, it was Iran's mock retaliation on the US base that started the peace process. (Both an olive branch and unconditional surrender.) But the Trump team deserve genuine credit for going into overtime with both the Israelis and the Iranians (or at least their cutout, the Emir of Qatar) to come down off their high horses pronto in stages. So what's next?
Well, Netanyahu is last man standing so I guess it's Eretz Israel.
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Wile E. Coyote
In: Arizona
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| There is no safety reason for building things under three hundred feet of rock unless you misstep and the world community takes you seriously. And very effective it is too. I predict the Americans won't have harmed a hair on a single centrifuge's head. |
A lot is being made of the Iranian trucks being used to take out enriched Uranium before the Fordow attack, but from the Iranian perspective they believed that the plant could withstand any attack, so it seems more likely that they were putting additional stuff in, trying to keep it safe.......
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Mick Harper
Site Admin
In: London
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That's a good point but the truth is nobody knew because these bombs had never been used before. No doubt they were tested but I simply don't believe terrestrial technology has reached the stage when anything behaving according to the laws of physics, e.g. a free-fall bomb subject to terminal velocity, can get through three hundred feet of rock. After all
| Nuclear bombs are tested underground without making a dent in the surface. |
Since it is only the enriched uranium that takes the time, all the Iranian material will be safe and sound either
(a) underground (though they may have to dig some new access shafts) or
(b) in a left luggage locker at Tehran Central station (though the bloke with the key may have been taken care of by the Israelis).
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