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Pete Jones
In: Virginia
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This thread is two things:
1) a place to collect fake names of alleged authors, potential fake names of alleged authors, and fake authors that are dead to rites.
2) a test bed for unleashing ChatGPT on the AEL to see what it can extract in an efficient manner. If it works (initially queries have been promising), then I'll use it to pull in mentions of fake authors from other threads and repost them here.
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Pete Jones
In: Virginia
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Galileo Galilei....a weird name anyway, with a couple suggestive elements.
The time in which he lived and the fact that he was in an agon with the Catholics, those great fakers, also suggests fertile ground.
Then there's the strange connection of this Italuan scientist's name with a New Testament location, Galilee. I find it hard to believe that in the late 16th century, when he was born and when the Bible was first coming to be known, that there would be a family with this Biblical name. Yes, I just talked myself into this being bull.
| The biblical roots of Galileo's name and surname were to become the subject of a famous (supposed) pun. In 1614, during the Galileo affair, one of Galileo's opponents, the Dominican priest Tommaso Caccini, delivered against Galileo a controversial and influential sermon. In it he made a point of quoting Acts 1:11: "Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven?" |
Seems like that line from Acts could have been why the name exists at all.
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Pete Jones
In: Virginia
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Galileo's immediate family includes three other members with Wikipedia pages. His father, an allegedly important musician and music theorist; his mother, who was related to a pope's secretary; and his brother, Michaelangelo, another musician and composer. Shades of Casanova.
The shades get darker if you read about his mother, whose Wikipedia page has so much detail that I just can't believe any of it. Fails the "is it true of you test" over and over. This is just a sample:
On 5 July 1562, Ammannati married Vincenzio Galilei at Pisa. By this time Ammannati's father already died and her brother Leone was to take charge of the dowry. Ammannati brought a hundred scudi as a dowry, half in cash and the rest in clothes. Additionally, her brother Leoni guaranteed to buy food for a year.
One year after they married, the Galilei family rented a house in Via dei Mercanti, where Vincenzio Galilei established a music school which had no financial success. Therefore, Galilei, a musician, was forced to enter the silk and wood trade.
On 15 February 1564, Ammannati gave birth to their first child, Galileo in the Ammannati family house in via Giusti, in the San Francesco district in Pisa where Ammannati's mother Lucrezia and sister Dorotea lived.
In 1566 Vincenzio Galileo moved to Florence, leaving Ammannati and Galileo in Pisa. In his absence, a customs officer Muzio Tedaldi looked after the family and sent regular reports to Vincenzio. In 1574, Ammannati and the children rejoined her husband in Florence. | |
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Mick Harper
Site Admin
In: London
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| In 1614, during the Galileo affair, one of Galileo's opponents, the Dominican priest Tommaso Caccini, delivered against Galileo a controversial and influential sermon. |
I don't know how they pronounce Caccini but it sounds a bunch of cack to me.
PS Why some people get their names transliterated into Latin and some don't is something that needs to be examined.
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Wile E. Coyote
In: Arizona
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The biblical roots of Galileo's name and surname were to become the subject of a famous (supposed) pun. In 1614, during the Galileo affair, one of Galileo's opponents, the Dominican priest Tommaso Caccini, delivered against Galileo a controversial and influential sermon. In it he made a point of quoting Acts 1:11: "Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven?"
Seems like that line from Acts could have been why the name exists at all.
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I sort of see the relevance to the Galileo affair, but the name is better understood in Jesus' call to repent. This is at the heart of the Galileo affair.
No?
Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. Jesus answered, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.” | |
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Wile E. Coyote
In: Arizona
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| Mick Harper wrote: | | In 1614, during the Galileo affair, one of Galileo's opponents, the Dominican priest Tommaso Caccini, delivered against Galileo a controversial and influential sermon. |
I don't know how they pronounce Caccini but it sounds a bunch of cack to me.
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You could also say that about William Caxton.
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Ishmael
In: Toronto
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| Wile E. Coyote wrote: |
Now there were some present at that time who told Jesus about the Galileans whose blood Pilate had mixed with their sacrifices. Jesus answered, “Do you think that these Galileans were worse sinners than all the other Galileans because they suffered this way? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish. Or those eighteen who died when the tower in Siloam fell on them—do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? I tell you, no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish.” | |
This is all extremely weird.
Galileo is also associated with a tower. A tower that leans, as if it might fall. From which he supposedly dropped two weights which fell to Earth and struck ground simultaneously.
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Mick Harper
Site Admin
In: London
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Aren't we all missing the main point? Hands up anyone who even gave a thought to the name Galileo Galilei. Yet it has been gnawing away at us ('a weird name', as Pete Jones puts it) all our lives.
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Pete Jones
In: Virginia
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Gala and Galaxy are related to milk and The Milky Way. For a top-five astronomer to have a name so similar to that is also strange.
Lion of the Milky Way or Lion of the Stars = Gala-Leo?
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Pete Jones
In: Virginia
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| From which he supposedly dropped two weights which fell to Earth and struck ground simultaneously. |
This always had a whiff of an apple dropping on Newton's head, or George Washington chopping down the cherry tree. A nice object lesson but not real
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Mick Harper
Site Admin
In: London
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Weren't there experiments involving rolling balls down slopes?
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Wile E. Coyote
In: Arizona
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It appears that this relates to two common misconceptions
1. Some deaths are more tragic than others. Disproved by Jesus, who is persecuted.
2. Heavier weights fall to the ground more quickly than lighter weights. Disproved by Galileo who is persecuted.
The Galileo/Galilean stories neatly reinforce each other.
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Wile E. Coyote
In: Arizona
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Galileo/Galilee shows it's a double.
Thomas (Tommaso Caccini) was the doubter.
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Pete Jones
In: Virginia
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Here's an idea. Galileo is the Church's front-man for the new cosmological facts of heliocentrism. The observations against geocentrism were adding up, so there had to be a way for the Church to co-opt the discovery.
They depict it as a great debate (and of course a prison sentence of a kind) between Science and the Church. The church appears to intend to win the battle, and they do, with Galileo recanting and admitting "and yet it doesn't actually move, my bad" at the end of his life. Weirdly, their new Galilean for the Galaxy has engaged in a battle with Cardinal Bellarmine and come out the loser.
Win the battle, lose the war, of course, but not for lack of trying.
Bellarmine means "Beautiful Warrior"
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Pete Jones
In: Virginia
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Copernicus, or Coppernicus, or Kopernigk, etc.
The -nicus or -nik is the -nik in Refusenik or Beatnik, "one who does something or other. "
"Cop" is "head," in Latin (and many of the real spoken languages). Caput, Cabeza, Cap (the hat for your head). it also seems to result in "chop" for "to behead someone."
So, Copernicus means "the one who chops off the head "? Prolemy's head?
PS: Colin Kaepernik is only distantly related
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