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Mick Harper
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I see it everywhere now. Essentially it is the taxpayer buying fakes from people who they pay to identify fakes. It started in the second half of the nineteenth century and is now a global phenomenon.

It is conjoined with that other pastime de nos jours, passing fakes off as looted artefacts.
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Wile E. Coyote


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Art is not about nice paintings or sculptures etc. It is a sytem of value without a simple recognised store of value, ie it's similar to, say, a cryptocurrency, there is no single central national institution (national bank) to guarantee value.

So you have to ask the question how is value continually created, recreated, and stored.

The answer is something like this actually happens by word of mouth (spin), exhibitions, artist reappraisals, auction house and private sales, resales, new artists, new finds of old masters, etc.

The odd forgery is actually functional in this as it acts as a (weak) guarantee to the buyer, that his/her is an original, ie it's probably not a forgery as hopefully this will have been spotted before, and expert so and so has taken a look.

The problem is that of course there is no single central national institution to guarantee value, so caveat emptor and, worryingly, everyone with an internet connection can now have a view rather than simply art historian Buffy Eccles, who can, so they say, tell a genuine Warhol.

If MJH comes along and and advises there are a whole lot of forgeries it could of course crash the currency, therefore it is everybody's interest, from auction house, to gallery, to museum, to professor of art studies, to buyer, to owner, to seller, to forger, to money launderer, to government (eg the UK treasury needs to allow the payment of taxes in the forms of artwork given in lieu) to carry on playing the game of original unless proven otherwise....
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Wile E. Coyote


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It's really a forerunner of crypto.
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Mick Harper
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As I emphasise in RevHist I have no objections whatsoever to art and antiques malpractice. As you say, when supply is (functionally) nil and demand astronomical, new stock from somewhere is essential. Otherwise we'll be back with gentry libraries holding the world stock of everything that is worth looking at.

It is only when fakes'n'forgeries start perverting the course of history I feel it my duty to step in.
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No, it's bad enough you are intent on crashing the art market, we defo don't want you involved in the heritage/tourist market as well.

You overlook that with manufacturing at 8% of GDP we do have to keep up appearances for the pilgrims, and why not?

They love it.
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I'm personally aware of an "antique" desk maker in Beverley, Yorkshire. Who makes new desks with new wood, but carefully "distresses" the assembly. With the application of painted-on ink, dirt and other materials that give the desk an "aged" appearance. Some parts get a light toasting with a blowtorch to improve the "weathering". Oh, and a damn good flogging with a bunch of keys. To give it all the battle scars one might find on the genuine article. Then sold on to dealers in London, who invent some "provenance", then sell them to rich Americans.
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Mick Harper
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This is the modern day version of providing English milords on the Grand Tour with a Roman bust. The Yorkshire dude is not doing anything illegal, he is just making modern repros. (Unless he's in on it which he presumably is.)

The Bond Street dealer is guilty of 'passing off' or whatever it is by providing a fake provenance but, since this isn't a Hepplewhite or anything, he could just say, "I've got this man up north who does big house clearances, I think' and he can't say anything more except 'It looks school-of Hepplewhite to me but I can't give any guarantees.'

The point is nobody really suffers and lots of people benefit.
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Is Hepplewhite himself a forgery?

There are no pieces of furniture made by Hepplewhite or his firm known to exist
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Mick Harper
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Good grief, I was only using him as an example. Investigate!

PS Because I am busy investigating the possibility that Vivaldi's Four Seasons was composed by Ezra Pound. Oh, you already knew that. Fair enough, I won't bother in that case.
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Mick Harper
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We are not concerned with fakery qua fakery, we are interested in fakery's effect on history. We are even more interested in the way academics diss those who shout 'fake!'

History doesn't come more important than the US Declaration of Independence so here is how Dr. Boyd, historian and librarian of Princeton University, author of “The Declaration of Independence: the Evolution of the Text” (1947) treated someone who had the temerity to cry 'bollocks!'

MR R. LEWIS believes that Thomas Paine quite literally wrote the original draft of the Declaration of Independence; that “no ordinary man” (i. e., Thomas Jefferson) could have written it; and that the famous draft in John Adams' hand and the so- called Rough Draft in Jefferson's hand were both copied from the original written by Paine.

That's setting out the position quite fairly to both sides. This isn't

This original, needless to say, is not produced by Mr. Lewis.

I don't think anybody would be writing about the controversy if he could have done. But after a 'needless to say', we get one of our faves, 'astonishing'

The astonishing thesis that Jefferson had nothing to do with the Declaration save to copy down Paine's phrases...

rounded off with a 'scarcely worth comment'

...and that its sentiments and expressions were foreign to Jefferson's mind and talent, is scarcely worth comment.

I wonder why you did then. But now our lofty critic denigrates our hero for using standard sources...

The author produces no single fact of importance that historians are not familiar with.

...in standard ways

His argument, laboring old materials, is an amazing agglomeration of hypothesis, inference, garbled quotations, non sequiturs and generalizations that include everything in their sweep.

Is this a bogus list? It would seem so

A single example of the author's method will suffice

You'd better make it a good one then, pal

The Adams draft is liberally sprinkled with capital letters; Jefferson's Rough Draft is not; Paine used capitals prodigiously; therefore Paine wrote the Declaration of Independence.

I apologise. This is indeed definitive. Mr R Lewis, whoever he is, must be a poltroon of the first order. I'm sorry I got involved now. Signing off... But wait, what's this?

This, of course, is oversimplification; Mr. Lewis takes several pages to elaborate the point. In these pages he presents parallel columns in which the Adams' Copy is placed beside five selections from Paine's writings. This deadly device reveals the remarkable fact that both Adams and Paine used capital letters very frequently, many of them being precisely identical.

I'd be rather proud of this myself. Using capital letters for common nouns was very much a matter of personal choice in the eighteenth century, so the ones in any given text will be highly diagnostic of the author. Or not as the case may be...

This is all relatively harmless, for it is unlikely that any serious student of history will take the thesis seriously.

That's true. They're a right bunch of tossers. But now the Pillar of Princeton Rectitude shows he doesn't have a clue when it comes to the uses and abuses of fakery

But it is scarcely forgivable to have the author advance the following unwarranted innuendo about the custodians of the Adams copy of the Declaration: “The concealment from the general public of this copy of the Declaration casts grave suspicion upon those responsible for withholding it.”

Ya got it in one, son.

The fact is the Adams Copy was published in Hazelton's scholarly work on the Declaration more than forty years ago

So it was 'concealed' for a hundred and twenty years. Now it was out of the bag, it was open season for academic trusties

Carl Becker presented the text again in 1922; and in 1943, when the Library of Congress asked for permission to publish it in facsimile, this permission was granted graciously and without hesitation.

But not, for some reason, to anyone who wasn't in the Magic Circle

If a similar permission was refused Mr. Lewis, the reason for this refusal, whatever it may have been, was certainly not due “to the fact that its publication would reveal the truth concerning its authorship.”

It certainly was. Otherwise Princeton Man would have had a punt as to what that reason was. But now for a beautiful example of the way peer review operates

That truth, which, of course, is not consonant with what Mr. Lewis deduces, has long been known and agreed upon by historians.

They are, as we know, always of one mind. And they are, as we know, constantly assailed by the Crazies

This is the latest, the most bizarre, and by all odds the worst of the recent spate of books about Paine by admirers more adulatory than critical.

Not really, old chap. Paine must have been in on it from the start, mustn't he?

If some scholar does not soon rescue the able pamphleteer from the disservices of friends who think that he had a philosophy and a program, as well as an inflamed pen, twentieth-century adulation may create a greater revulsion than nineteenth-century antipathy.

I'm with you there though. Thomas Paine was a total mountebank. A perfect foil for that other mountebank, Thomas Jefferson.
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Mick Harper wrote:
I'm with you there though. Thomas Paine was a total mountebank. A perfect foil for that other mountebank, Thomas Jefferson.

Are you suggesting that Jefferson wrote it but implied to Adams that it was authored by Paine?

I am more interested in the idea that it was far more ancient than any of these characters, many of whom I am unsure ever existed.
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Mick Harper
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The whole thing originated with Pete Jones sending me the original article. I assume the Declaration was penned by Paine but I agreed with Pete's theory that they couldn't have a such a foundational document written by an Englishman so they pretended it was written by Jefferson.

Something like that. I don't find it significant who wrote it, only that (a) there is some mystery surrounding its authorship and (b) the perfervid attempts, even all these years later, to keep the thing out of Paine's hands. Even though he is a beloved character in their own revolution.

I do however recognise the extreme worth of the text. Mountebanks can be geniuses too.
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I appreciate the credit, but it was the author's thesis as opposed to my theory. He also argued that Paine was far too radical and infamous a propagandist (due to Common Sense, published 6 months before the DoI) to be accepted as a founding father. You don't want rabble-rousery to overshadow the intended solemn nature of the document.

The best evidence he gave (going on memory) was that after the soaring rhetoric of the opening, the DoI devolves into a list of the King's crimes:

The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

...and Jefferson never used anything like the following rhetoric, being a total milquetoast. Jefferson, if he wrote it, certainly never wrote anything in this tone ever again. He also showed that the tone was precisely Paine's go-to (emphasis added):

    * He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and DESTROYED the lives of our people.

    * He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of DEATH, DESOLATION, and TYRANNY, already begun with circumstances of CRUELTY & PERFIDY scarcely paralleled in the MOST BARBARIOUS ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a CIVILIZED nation.

    * He has constrained our fellow Citizens ...to become the EXECUTIONERS of their friends and Brethren

I heard about the book from a conspiracy theorist who argued that the real problem was freemasonry. Paine was the most famous freemason (or something) at the time, so letting him be linked to the founders would have made the entire project of revolution be seen as a masonic plot.
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Mick Harper
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Pete Jones wrote:
I heard about the book from a conspiracy theorist

Demonstrating once again just how useful these daft twats are.
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