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Ishmael


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Brian Ambrose wrote:
Some time after that I had a stroke (bleed) that affected my language and logic (there's probably a better description) centres -it was weird.


Holy shit Brian. So sorry to hear this.
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Ishmael


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Brian Ambrose wrote:
I was bullied....


That would probably have been me. I'm better now.
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Mick Harper wrote:
I have now watched it again; it's as I remember it: The SCUM theory is based on multiple parallel paths of stars through space formed in a line and that they eventually, due to gravity, shrink into solar system size.

I don't recall--and I didn't mean--the stars were anything but randomly spread through space. Gravity clumps them into... er... clumps.

Yes. I think Brian is confusing SCUM (which is quite simple) with some of my early, complex proposals with respect to my own ideas about Solar System formation. Many of those ideas of mine have been discarded or shelved. My work evolved, until it stopped (put aside for other projects).

I'm still working on the Deserts (Climate Science) book and now I'm writing a new book about RMS Titanic. If I can get these out, I fully intend to go back to my work with the planets and write my magnum opus, Archimedes' Lever.
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Brian Ambrose wrote:
Stars do not cluster.....If anything, over time stars separate, as can be seen in any picture of a galaxy....This is because space itself is expanding. It sounds bollocks, but there it is....And your unelectable ends up with a big single fat lump.

You know what? This is actually a good criticism!
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Brian Ambrose wrote:
My updated theory now predicts that any solar system out there the planets’ positions will be found according to the underlying principle of Titius-Bode.

I know it's early days Brian but; if it turns out you convince me that you're onto something, maybe we can collaborate.
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1. The early star is spinning and a disc (not imaginary, it is a thing - it has been seen).
2. The disk is big and thin, wide enough to reach pluto distance.
3. Blobs are not roughly ejected, they're just dropped off.
4. As the star cools down and gets fatter and diameter gets smaller, starting with Pluto, more blobs are dropped off.

Isn't this the conventional model?
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Brian Ambrose wrote:
Grok said:

It’s already a bold alternative to the standard model, with enough meat to shake up astrophysics if fleshed out further (e.g., math for orbits, cooling rates). You’ve built a cosmic story that’s both wild and internally consistent—truly revolutionary!

I'm terrified to share any of my ideas with Grok. I don't trust it not to retain the information and spit it out somewhere to someone else.
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My working name for the theory is Dynamic Origin of Early Solar-System - DOES.
Of course if anyone can up with a snappier descriptive acronym I would be appreciative.

I will oblige once I know more of what you're advocating. I'm envious of Grok.
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Boreades wrote:
SODIT.

That's more like it! Smile
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Mick Harper
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Ismael wrote:
The correct name for this hypothesis (proposed originally by Mick Harper) is S.C.U.M. Single Category Universe Model.

They are referring to a different theory, Ishmael. I don't think 'proposed' does it complete justice. Is there some part of SCUM I wasn't responsible for?

Yes. I think Brian is confusing SCUM (which is quite simple) with some of my early, complex proposals with respect to my own ideas about Solar System formation.

I think you are confusing three quite different things.
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Mick Harper wrote:
I think you are confusing three quite different things.

Indeed. I'm hoping Brian will bring us up to speed.
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Hello Ishmael, great to hear from you again! Yeah, we did have some disagreements, but I don't have any bad feelings about it - losing a bit of your brain does put things in perspective. I'm grateful I'm still here.

My theory is completely different to the conventional model. The conventional model says each planet and moon was formed by clumps of dust and left-over bits of stuff. And that the Sun was similarly clumps that got bigger until it fired up fusion. Somehow, the planets started orbiting, start spinning, and also started getting hot. I don't want to say anymore about it because to me, it's ridiculous.

My theory (Dynamic Origin of Early Solar-System) is radically different. In short:

The Sun was born as plasma from the centre of the galaxy, spinning very fast, so that it was more of a disk, and elliptical. Due to the spin, the diameter of the Sun was wider than the solar system (!)

As the rapidly cooling and shrinking disk, still plasma, blobs of the Sun were 'dropped off' and they became planets, and inherited their spins. The plane of the planets is therefore explained.

Moons were similarly created from the new planets when they ejected 'babies' due to centrifugal force.

Another separate factor (the companion) caused the planet drops-off timings which gave the Bode harmonic placements of them, from Pluto to Mercury (and not just an amazing coincidence).

Each planet and moon is unique, like snowflakes, because each were created at a different time and state of cooling.

If correct, it should be possible to predict the compositions of objects in the solar system, and the structures of other solar systems because the theory is universal.

I also think the early Sun may give a clue to the origin of all stars.

That's it, in a nutshell. I developed the theory with Grok - it not only gave me the mathematical rationale for the model, it gave options where parts were implausible. You're right about the confidentiality issue - on the other hand without the mathematical basis my theory is just a nutty idea. I have to trust somebody and I have a good feeling about Elon.

As my daughter said, it's random dad. Yes, it is. I am planning to make a video using Blender (a steep learning curve) to make the theory accessible. Also, provide the mathematical stuff, detail of about each planet and some of the moons, descriptions, and diagrams. It's big!
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Update. Although nobody else is overmuch concerned about it, without an explanation for the (necessary) elliptical proto-Sun disk, it bothered me. It needed the prequel. So having scratched my head about it, I now have an expanded hypothesis: Dynamic Origin of Early Stars and Solar Systems (DOESSS).
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We call it mission creep.
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Mick Harper
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But you may not be a creep. I just don't know you after all these years.
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