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Wile E. Coyote
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| Cavalry charges might win a battle, but with poor leadership they could end in disaster. The key to success was the impact caused when fast-moving objects hit slow or stationary ones. Control was more important than speed, so attacks at the gallop were rare. Many British cavalry charges are remembered and celebrated because of the risk involved, whether successful or not. |
I like the way they included the Peterloo massacre.
Another valuable lesson learnt: Charges against unnamed protesters are more likely to result in success.
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Mick Harper
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It certainty was a great success -- for both sides. The people on horseback carried on ruling the country (with brief interregnums) right up until 2021. The people on foot carried on milking it for all it was worth (with no interregnums) until 2021. Let's get out there and do it all over again! Heads you get a horse, tails you get a pair of clogs (please leave one behind in mute commemoration).
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Wile E. Coyote
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Agincourt was won so that Joan and Giles (they are mirrors) could unify France.
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Mick Harper
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Here's one for Ishmael. I presume you are referring to Joan = Catherine of France (Valois) who introduced insanity into the English (Plantagenet) royal family, as opposed to Joan = Joanna the Mad of Spain who introduced insanity into the Austrian (Habsburg) royal family.
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Ishmael
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You're getting the hang of it.
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Ishmael
In: Toronto
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The history of modern recreational jousting suggests that some medieval records and artifacts are not forgeries. Testing the designs in actual battle suggests the illustrations and equipment reflect practical reality.
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Wile E. Coyote
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| Ishmael wrote: | Don’t look now but some British myth busters have inadvertently (it would appear) proven English Longbows would have killed approximately zero French Knights at the battle of Agincourt.
https://youtu.be/DBxdTkddHaE |
Wiles has to accept the first refutation.
So, they aimed at the horses.
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Mick Harper
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Here's a nifty way of deciding which ancient empires probably existed and which probably didn't
The Rise and Fall of Multicultural Empires How empires were built from diversity and unity Michael Koy
From the Ancient Romans to the Austro-Hungarian Empire, multiculturalism had been the core of great empires for thousands of years. As such, stories from the past will teach people of today how to solve modern problems regarding multiculturalism and coexistence. No matter how successful or brutal, the lessons from the great and diverse states of history must be learned, and their failures and advancements must be laid bare for all to see in order for the modern world to move forward.
https://medium.com/exploring-history/the-rise-and-fall-of-multicultural-empires-ff64a8b92cc9 |
I've often said we've got a lot to learn from the Habsburgs. Lesson one: make sure you're either German or Hungarian.
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Wile E. Coyote
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There are quite a few myths around Hadrian's wall.
Let's take a look. Let's post 'em up in a list. Walkway? Turf? Defensive function? Whoa that is radical.......
No. Wiles can't be bothered, he don't like lists. The fewer things on a list the better, in fact my favoured list is the list of One. The truth is simple and obvious.........
Time to ask.
Hats, can I have a history lesson?
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Wile E. Coyote
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| Hatty wrote: | The biography of Hadrian appears to have been written by a certain Aelianus Spartianus. Spartianus was the first, if somewhat belated, source for much of Hadrian's 'Life' including The Wall
Curiously, in Rome there exists no contemporaneous written reference to the wall.
The only known reference to Hadrian’s decision to build it is a single sentence in a work by the Roman historian Spartianus. Expounding on Hadrian’s visit to Britain more than a century and a half after it took place, the historian wrote, “He was the first to construct a wall, eighty [Roman] miles in length, which was to separate the barbarians from the Romans.” |
According to Wiki, Spartianus is one of six historians who composed what scholars call Augustan history, now considered untrustworthy "on many levels" by scholars themselves.
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Blimey, that was quick. Thank you, Hats. Speed and dependability are not within my skillset. I guess we always admire the qualities in others we lack in ourselves.
| Curiously, in Rome there exists no contemporaneous written reference to the wall. |
Curious that..........
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Wile E. Coyote
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Wile E. Coyote
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Hmm, it appears that the Roman historians were not impressed for a reason. They didn't have the advantage of seeing the full scale model.
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Mick Harper
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Are we going to get a peak at Wylie's full scale model?
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Wile E. Coyote
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Of course.
The Romans built a wall coast to coast, at the shortest point to fend off the barbarians, it was called the Antonine wall.
| The only known reference to Hadrian’s decision to build it is a single sentence in a work by the Roman historian Spartianus. Expounding on Hadrian’s visit to Britain more than a century and a half after it took place, the historian wrote, “He was the first to construct a wall, eighty [Roman] miles in length, which was to separate the barbarians from the Romans.” |
Christ, you didn't think the Romans tried to do it twice, did you? It was bloody hard work the first time.
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Wile E. Coyote
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Let's take a look.
Here is what wiki has to say.
Gildas and Bede
Writing in AD 730, Bede, following Gildas in his De Excidio et Conquestu Britanniae, mistakenly ascribes the construction of the Antonine Wall to the Britons in his Historia Ecclesiastica 1.12:
The islanders built the wall which they had been told to raise, not of stone, since they had no workmen capable of such a work, but of sods, which made it of no use. Nevertheless, they carried it for many miles between the two bays or inlets of the sea of which we have spoken; to the end that where the protection of the water was wanting, they might use the rampart to defend their borders from the irruptions of the enemies. Of the work there erected, that is, of a rampart of great breadth and height, there are evident remains to be seen at this day [AD 730]. It begins at about two miles' distance from the monastery of Aebbercurnig [Abercorn], west of it, at a place called in the Pictish language Peanfahel, but in the English tongue, Penneltun [Kinneil], and running westward, ends near the city of Aicluith [Dumbarton].[20]
Bede associated Gildas's turf wall with the Antonine Wall. As for Hadrian's Wall, Bede again follows Gildas:
[the departing Romans] thinking that it might be some help to the allies [Britons], whom they were forced to abandon, constructed a strong stone wall from sea to sea, in a straight line between the towns that had been there built for fear of the enemy, where Severus also had formerly built a rampart.[20]
Bede obviously identified Gildas's stone wall as Hadrian's Wall, but he sets its construction in the 5th century rather than the 120s, and does not mention Hadrian. And he would appear to have believed that the ditch-and-mound barrier known as the Vallum (just to the south of, and contemporary with, Hadrian's Wall) was the rampart constructed by Severus. Many centuries would pass before just who built what became apparent.[21] |
I just love that "Bede obviously identified Gildas's stone wall as Hadrians"...of course it's the second better fancier wall, taller with walkways and stuff, built to help the Britains as the Romans left. Shame they made a bit of shambles of it. Still, Wiley is always able to forgive someone if their motivation was good...... after all only a cad wouldn't.
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