Cloak-not-Dagger (NEW CONCEPTS)

[Hatty]

The hero of the Gesta Romanorum is Guido, Gui de Warwick, who went to the Holy Land out of repentance for his violent past and returned to live as a hermit by the River Avon. A 'life' that is echoed by St. Maughold and other important Megalithic 'saints'.

His supposed hermitage is still known as Guy's Cliff. The chantry is said to have been built on account of the legend and became a chapel dedicated to St. Mary Magdalene. The whole site fell into disrepair but fortunately in the twentieth century the chapel was sold to the Freemasons.

The Gesta is a loose collection of texts, similar to other hermetic collections such as the Golden Legend. The "only known copy" resides at St. John's College, Cambridge naturally.

[Hatty]

The Gesta are not so much 'moralisations' as moral fables. They distinguish between truth and lies. What is interesting is they are supposed to have originated in England but have an oriental 'flavour'. The "Romanorum" doesn't refer to Roman but to romance, i.e. giants, dwarfs, princesses, enchanted castles etc. Although not officially in circulation before the mid-fourteenth century -- 1349 is cited (needles to say the MS is nowhere to be found) -- it is clear the stories are far older.

If, as claimed, this was the most popular story-book of the Middle Ages and the inspiration for Bocaccio, Chaucer, Shakespeare et al., why did it take five hundred or so years for an English translation (1824)?

[Hatty]

Who 'invented' royal coronations? Charlemagne was famously crowned Roman Emperor by the Pope so it seems to be a Frankish rite but surely kings or even queens were at least anointed? Or p'raps not... Wiki says Edgar the Peaceful was the first Anglo-Saxon king to have a coronation thereby creating a precedent both for himself and his queen.

Interestingly, he chose Bath as the location for this momentous occasion. Bath is of course a very Megalithic setting.

[nemesis8]

Hunters/thieves>>>> rob the animal of its coat.

Rob>>>>Robe>>>>Robe and Hood>>>>>Robin Hood

N8 missed something obvious when advancing this.

Stole leads to>>>> Stole.

[Ishmael]

These are N8's best insights thus far!

[nemesis8]

Great.... you're finally back....good hunting, Ish.

[Edwin]

Just because I like it and its relevant to the beginning of this topic.

Welsh lullaby Pais Dinogad:

English-
Dinogad's shift is speckled, speckled,
It was made from the pelts of martens.
`Wee! Wee!' Whistling.
We call, they call, the eight in chains.
When your father went out to hunt -
A spear on his shoulder, a club in his hand -
He called on his lively dogs,
`Giff! Gaff! Take, take! Fetch, fetch!'
He killed fish from his coracle
Like the lion killing small animals.
When your father went to the mountains
He would bring back a roebuck, a boar, a stag,
A speckled grouse from the mountain,
And a fish from the Derwennydd falls.
At whatever your father aimed his spear -
Be it a boar, a wild cat, or a fox -
None would escape but that had strong wings.


7th century Welsh-
Peis dinogat e vreith vreith.
o grwyn balaot ban wreith.
chwit chwit chwidogeith.
gochanwn gochenyn wythgeith.
pan elei dy dat ty e helya;
llath ar y ysgwyd llory eny law.
ef gelwi gwn gogyhwc.
giff gaff. dhaly dhaly dhwg dhwg.
ef lledi bysc yng corwc.
mal ban llad. llew llywywg.
pan elei dy dat ty e vynyd.
dydygai ef penn ywrch penn gwythwch pen hyd.
penn grugyar vreith o venyd.
penn pysc o rayadyr derwennyd.
or sawl yt gyrhaedei dy dat ty ae gicwein
o wythwch a llewyn a llwyuein.
nyt anghei oll ny uei oradein.

And note the modern Welsh version (where is "Middle Welsh")

Pais Dinogad sydd fraith, fraith,
O groen y bela y mae'i waith.
`Chw! Chw!' Chwibanwaith.
Gwaeddwn ni, gwaeddant hwy - yr wyth gaeth.
Pan elai dy dad di i hela -
Gwaywffon ar ei ysgwydd, pastwn yn ei law -
Galwai ar gw+n tra chyflym,
`Giff! Gaff! Dal, dal! Dwg, dwg!'
Fe laddai bysgod o'i gwrwgl
Fel y llada llew faen-filod!
Pan elai dy dad di i'r mynydd
Deuai ef ag un iwrch, un twrch coed, un hydd,
Un rugiar fraith o fynydd,
A physgodyn o readr Derwennydd.
Beth bynnag a gyrhaeddai dy dad 'i bicell -
Boed yn dwrch, yn gath goed, yn lwynog -
Ni ddihangai'r un oni bai'n nerthol ei adenydd.

[Wile E. Coyote]

Megalithic History.

Chivalry - Walter Raleigh is reputed to have placed a cloak over a puddle in order to prevent Queen Elizabeth I from muddying her shoes..........

Contra orthodoxy this was not a real event to stop her getting "a booty."

Here we see a moon cycle. Elizabeth the pale moon goddess, is visualized over a expanse of water. Her seafarer protector Raleigh cloaks then uncloaks the moon goddess.

Can it be a coincidence that Raleigh was made governor of Jersey where he built Elizabeth castle.....

[Ishmael]

Oh do come on.

[Wile E. Coyote]

[Ishmael]

Coyote. I am really getting tired of these empty meaningless posts! You make more posts than anyone else and most of what you write utter nonsense!!!

If you have an original idea, post about it. Otherwise, stop polluting the forum with garbage. And it is garbage. Trash. Spam.

[Hatty]

[Tilo Rebar]

[Ishmael]

[Hatty]