Meta-Skepticism: Was Jesus Story Written Middle Ages? (History)

[Ishmael]

Was the Gospel Written in the Middle Ages?

For some time, I have suspected that the Protestant Reformation is to be identified with the birth of Christianity. These two events are merely the same story told twice.

Protestantism is the Jesus movement. The Character Jesus may have been invented by the contemporaneous Jesuit Order, but it was Protestantism that advanced Jesus, the Son of God, as the central pillar of a new, evangelical Theology. Protestantism's primary theological source was the work of the apostle Paul, who likely lived not long before Martin Luther.

Martin Luther himself appears in Catholic History as the Pauline disciple, Marcion, transported back to the early Christian epoch, 50-150 AD. Of course, the early Christian epoch is where he belongs. But the early Christian epoch is actually somewhere around 1450-1550AD.

All the Christian martyrs of the apparent first and second century, were indeed executed by "Romans"---but these were Romans of the Holy Roman Empire.

Jesus, as the hero of the Gospel stories, did not gain prominence within Catholicism until incorporated as part of the reform package instituted during the Counter-Reformation, in which the Jesuits played a leading role. The Catholic Bible was composed during this period.

[Ishmael]

According to the Gospels, Jesus was tried by the Jewish religious authorities on a charge of heresy. He was found guilty. However, he was not executed by the Jewish authorities. Instead, the Sanhedrin, calling Jesus a criminal, demanded his death from the secular authorities.

In the Gospel of John, the Jewish leaders claim they lack the authority to execute Jesus.

They answered and said to him, "If this Man were not an evildoer [criminal], we would not have delivered Him to you." So Pilate said to them, "Take Him yourselves, and judge Him according to your law." The Jews said to him, "We are not permitted to put anyone to death," to fulfill the word of Jesus which He spoke, signifying by what kind of death He was about to die.
John 18: 31-32

Incredibly, the Catholic Inquisition operated under the very same rules.

The religious authorities of the middle ages lacked the power to execute those they condemned of Heresy. Instead, those convicted were handed over to the secular "Roman" authorites and these "Romans" put the heretics to death in accordance with secular laws.

Is it likely that the precise relationship between the Jewish Sanhedrin and the Roman state would be duplicated 1500 years on in the relationship between the Catholic Church and the Holy Roman state?

I say no.

I say it is more likely that the Gospel Story was composed at the time of the Inquisition. The trial of Jesus is modeled upon the real experience of many Protestant Martyrs.

[Ishmael]

John the Baptist


Some say that the pointing reference is to indicate that "there is one who comes after me."

[Ishmael]

John Calvin


John Knox


John Huss


John Wycliffe

[Grant]

[Boreades]

This Finger Pointing seems like it might be a clue.







I knew it! The Simpsons is a conspiracy as well! (ROFL)

[Ishmael]

Hey. Boreades. I didn't know you were an asshole. Thanks for self-identifying.

[Ishmael]

What strikes me here, as it has also with the early history of astronomy, is the inordinate preponderance of "Johns" associated with the beginning of the movement.

[Boreades]

[Boreades]

[Ishmael]

Yes. The name "John" means "one." The idea occurred to me that, therefore, the finger might not be pointing at all, but rather indicating a number.

[Wile E. Coyote]

[Ishmael]

What does "young" have to do with John?

[Wile E. Coyote]

[Ishmael]