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In: finity and beyond
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Jorn

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The answer is yes.
The sun cross, also known as the wheel cross, Odin's cross, or Woden's cross,[1] a cross inside a circle, is a common symbol in artifacts of the Americas, Prehistoric Europe, and also Prehistoric Asia, particularly during the Neolithic to Bronze Age periods. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_cross
I think sun cross is the best name, as it represents the long longest and the shortest day, and the start and stop of winter. It is also called a sun wheel. (hjul=wheel, Jul=Yule, both pronounced Yule)
Before Yule, later also called Krist-messe, it was this cross that was to be painted with tar or cut with a knife, on every house over the doors in Scandinavia.
This is perhaps the longest running tradition we have in Scandinavia, and it is still kept on many farms.
A medieval cross, outside a Stave Church.
That a Stave church has an English name, is a hint that they once stood in England as well.
It is also very common in rock carvings.
One thing I did not know is that it is also called Krets-tegnet (crest-sign) in Danish, and a crest in English also meant a circular path.
The cross is also found on the Oseberg ship, on the so called "Oseberg Buddha"
When used as daymarks in shipping, + was used to mark a safe place to anchor, while x meant danger.
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Wile E. Coyote
In: Arizona
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+= A meeting point, a crossing, ambush/slaughter place, anchorage.
0= Full Moon....Later Sun.
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Pulp History

In: Wales
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The symbol shown above has a swastika in the quarter panels.... this was chosen by Hitler for its pagan roots and I believe represents the 'rotating / turning sun'. _________________ Question everything!
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Ishmael

In: Toronto
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Rotating sun?
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Pulp History

In: Wales
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Does the sun not rotate?? I am sure it rotates, faster at its equator than its poles as it is gaseous..... _________________ Question everything!
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Ishmael

In: Toronto
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Pulp History wrote: | Does the sun not rotate?? I am sure it rotates, faster at its equator than its poles as it is gaseous..... |
A swastika "rotates" around an axis directed toward the viewer. The Sun rotates around an axis perpendicular to the viewer's line of sight. Moreover, the Sun's rotation was certainly unknown until modern times.
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Pulp History

In: Wales
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Not saying where I got this from - I just remember reading somewhere that the swastika represented the rotating sun.... but, yes, you are correct on the axis of the sun :) _________________ Question everything!
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Chad

In: Ramsbottom
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I distinctly remember staring at the sun through squinty eyes and getting the illusion of a rotating disk... Don't think I was on anything at the time.
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Free-Radical

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As I recall, the swastika is supposed to represent the action of the pole. Look at the northern sky, especially the constellations around the pole. The dipper is currently whirling around the pole in a reasonable approximation of one arm of a swastika. In other eras some of the other constellations like Draco may have provided similar imagery.
Image supplied by Wikipedia:
Edit: Sorry for not being clear. This image shows the path of the pole over thousands of years due to precession. The center of the image is not the pole, but the center of the circle traced by the pole. The actual pole is currently very close to the star now called Polaris at the end of the little dipper (the numbers on the image stand for the date).
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Hatty
Site Admin

In: Berkshire
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Lovely image but the arm doesn't appear to be anywhere near the pole star :)
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Wile E. Coyote
In: Arizona
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The swastika is the early version of the cross.
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