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nemesis8


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Looks like the CIA is continuing to be penetrated by AQ http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8440535.stm

Nemesis8 has continually stressed the role of Ali Mohammed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Mohamed in the background leading to 9/11.
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Mohamed has been described as "Six-foot one, 200 pounds, and exceptionally fit, ... a martial artist and skilled linguist who spoke fluent English, French, and Hebrew in addition to his native Arabic. He was disciplined, clever, and gregarious, with a marked facility for making friends."


You realise that Ali Abdul is the Arabic for James Bond
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Ishmael


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Grant wrote:
You realise that Ali Abdul is the Arabic for James Bond


What?
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nemesis8


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I did. You are one step behind.... The problem is.. Who is Dubbleosix?
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nemesis8


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The near miss on Christmas Day means that bodyscanners will soon be in use at airports in UK and US.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/30/us/30privacy.html?_r=1


A widespread myth is now developing that the miss occurred because of a failure to share information.....
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A widespread myth is now developing that the miss occurred because of a failure to share information.....


Whereas it really happened because of a failure to act on the information they had. The question the press should be asking is "would this man have been allowed on an El Al flight?"

Fortunately, it's incredibly difficult to bring down a plane using smuggled explosives. What worries me is what's going to happen when a terrorist hides the explosive in his arse (ass for Ishmael). Will we all have to undergo anal probes before flying or will people finally see the silliness of just using scanners to stop terrorists.
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nemesis8


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Intelligence is only of value if officers analyse it intelligently......
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nemesis8


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So we don't need James Bond we need Sherlock Holmes.....

wiki wrote:

Mohamed also took maps and training manuals off base to downsize and copy at Kinko's and used them to write al-Qaeda's multivolume terrorist training guide that became playbook.

Mohamed also conducted clandestine military and demolition training through the Al Kifah Refugee Center. While in the United States, he helped train a number of jihadis, like El Sayyid Nosair and Mahmud Abouhalima, who assisted Ramzi Yousef in his 1993 attack on the World Trade Center.


hmm...
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The phrase from Wiki, "Al Qaeda's multivolume terrorist training guide" is a wonderful example of secret service misdirection.

"Al-Qaeda" - no evidence that any organisation of that name exists. There are lots of states, groups and individuals which hate America and Israel. It's too risky to explain the nuances to the American people so instead the CIA invented Al-Qaeda, a shadowy organisation led by a man in a cave which can be blamed for any terrorist event. Osama is a bit like Emmanuel Goldstein in 1984

"multivolume"- brilliant! This implies a high level of sophistication which the cave-dwellers have never demonstrated.

"terrorist training guide" - Don't forget that their biggest success was supposedly achieved with box-cutters. What volume did that appear in?
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nemesis8 wrote:
The near miss on Christmas Day means that bodyscanners will soon be in use at airports in UK and US.


There is a big problem with those scanners, in some countries (ex. Canada) it would be illegal to put anyone under 18 through them.
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Ishtar wrote:

There is a big problem with those scanners, in some countries (ex. Canada) it would be illegal to put anyone under 18 through them.


Hello Ishtar

Interesting post.

Can you tell us why ?

My understanding is that the images do not have to be an exact replication of a body image and you could for example, have operators/scanners for different sexes or children.You might need laws to criminalise the circulation of images. e.t.c

Is this impossible?
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Can you tell us why ?

Some child pornography laws are very strict, the taking of pictures of anyone under 18 that shows them naked would be a violation. As a result the scanners ordered for Canadian airports won't be allowed to scan anyone under 18. They are exempt.

Someone mentioned to me how several members of the Toronto-18 were under 18 years old.

edit: well, I have to correct myself, I can't find a direct quote that says the reason for the exemption, just that they are exempt and child exploitation groups are happy about the decision.
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nemesis8


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I currently hold the Nichols card. If anyone is willing to swap their Ali Mohammed, then let me know...as we can trade.

In fact I will throw in Mcveigh for free.........

Do you want to deal?
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nemesis8


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Here's a difficult question.

Is a passenger more at risk of terrorist attack...

At the airport?

On the plane?
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nemesis8


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Did a bit of checking on Israeli airport security....It is based on a combination of profiling, scanning and interview. None of this you can't take toothpaste stuff. Record is impressive and only takes 30 minutes check in.

One problem.... the system is so oppressive on any Palestinian, they mostly cross the border and fly in and out via Jordan.
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