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Mick Harper wrote:
This forum owes its existence, admittedly indirectly, to Graham Hancock so bang away. Open a new thread in this section.


Done.

[ Graham Hancock topic here ]
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When Hatty and I were doing our Megalithic thing, two questions never got resolved:
1. Why were the Megalithics so obsessed by the furthest points west/south of landmasses?
2. What was the significance of Troy Towns?

Listening to On Your Farm yesterday on Radio Four--I like to keep up with what everyone else is doing--I was rather disappointed to hear this week they were in the Scilly Isles. Who wants to grow flowers and make daffodil-flavoured ice cream?

My ears perked up when they said they were visiting a farm on St Agnes, the southernmost Scilly isle. They (I've got two) perked up even more when they said it was the southernmost farm on St Agnes and was--verily, in the BBC's own words--at the most southwestern point of the whole of Britain.

But when they said it was Troy Town Farm I lost interest. Too much information for a Sunday morning, my day of rest.
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You can also visit a Troy Town Farm near Dorchester.

Warning!
This site has no on-site toilet and shower facilities.
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We have. It's a turkey farm.
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Consider the contrast

Nipawin Medicine Wheel Reconciliation Park Country: Canada
While researching the Nipawin Reconciliation Park in downtown Nipawin, Saskatchewan, I came upon a website about the Nipawin Reconciliation Medicine Wheel which is located just north of the Nipawin Hydro Electric Station. South of the site was destroyed to make way for the Hydro Electric Station but the ancient settlement site north of the station is still there and has been commemorated by an Aboriginal Medicine Wheel monument. http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=60891

I trust the Nipawin have been suitably reconciled.

Manchester Ship Canal Stone Country: England
This marker stone was placed here in 1889 to mark a nearby oak tree grown from an acorn planted in the first sod cut for the Manchester Ship Canal at Eastham in 1887 by Lord Egerton of Tatton. The sod was collected by Henry Boddington of nearby Pownall Hall and it was he who planted the acorn and had spot marked with the carved stone. The oak tree is still there and is now quite substantial. http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=61653

The Manchester Ship Canal was built last century and is already fit only for the heritage museum.
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There are all kinds of way ancient sites are endangered
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Antonine Wall remains below Golden Hill
Five proposed Battery Energy Storage Sites near Clydebank, one right along the path of the Antonine Wall. This is along with the huge site just off Cochno Road, Whitehill close to the rock art there. Archaeology at risk. Part of the Antonine Wall that has been exposed at Golden Hill. http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=58535

Dudderhouse Hill
The Dudderhouse Hill long cairn has been designated a Scheduled Monument - the highest level of heritage protection available in England. The long cairn survives as a partly turf-covered oval mound of stones, about 23m (75ft) long, 12m (39m) wide and 1m (3ft) high.

"It doesn't look particularly impressive and that's one of the problems," Paul Jeffery, Historic England's national listings manager, said. "Nearby, about 70m (230ft) away, there's a cairn where people have added stones over time. Unfortunately, because they don't realise that this is such an important site, some people walking past pick up stones from what they think is just this pile and then add them to the other cairn and obviously that causes harm."
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=62244
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We have had occasion to speak of yew trees in various contexts in these pages so it comes as a surprise and a pleasure to announce 'the last yew forest in Europe' is in... Sussex. (My money had been on Rumelian Carpathia.) It's in something called the Kingley Vale National Nature Reserve at Funtington, near Chichester.

Funtington, their publicity people thought long and hard coming up with that one. But anyway we'll arrange the AEL Autumn Picnic there if someone can make a recce.
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From Megalithomania UK, an interview with Howard Crowhurst.

Hugh Newman interviews Howard Crowhurst, author of ‘The Megalithic Plan’ which looks at advanced ‘Astro-Geometry’ across ancient Britain and Brittany in France that incorporates Pythagorean triangles, country-spanning alignments, ancient metrology and stunning revelations, often recorded in myth, as to how these megalithic sites were laid out in prehistory.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRHISCLMVhg
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It seems this Howard Crowhurst has also written a book.

Don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger!

The new ground-breaking book by Howard Crowhurst revealing the connections between the major megalithic sites in Great Britain.


What connections?

This book is a revelation. It shows how all the major megalithic sites in the British Isles are linked together by simple modular geometry on a gigantic scale. This includes Stonehenge, Avebury, Stanton Drew, Silbury Hill, Marlborough Mound, West Kennet long barrow, the Durrington Walls and Shafts, the Rollright Stones, the Rudston Monolith, the Devil's Arrows, the Thornborough Rings, Castlerigg stone circle, Bryn Celli Ddu, the Clava Cairns, Orkney and many others.


Look, I haven't bought a copy of the book. But is there anything in his list that's hasn't already been thoroughly thrashed on the TME website?

The principles behind this masterpiece, on a par with the Great Wall of China or the Egyptian pyramids, and the reasons for which it was done, were handed down orally and in secrecy over the centuries by druids and Celtic monks ....


If it's so secret, how do we know now?

...until they were finally written down in cryptic form in the Mabinogion, the Welsh bardic tales.


Which of course is entirely believable?

This was done in the Domesday period when it was believed that the destruction of humanity was imminent.


S'funny, I though the Domesday Book was done by Norman accountants a couple of centuries before the fabled Mabinogion origins. But what do I know?

https://epistemea.fr/uk/accueil/30-the-megalithic-plan.html
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The Mabinogion got a mention in my latest, Borry, published while you were in prison
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If they ever did translate their own words into plain English (not plain Welsh, I think, on this occasion) would it result in a paradigm crash? For the Welsh, it probably would. For everyone else it is more about cash than crash. Penguin Classics are always on the lookout for colourful tosh they can sell in wagonloads to people who like their colourful tosh to be officially endorsed as antient. The Mabinogion for instance

The White Book of Rhydderch, contains the Four Branches of the Mabinogi. The Mabinogion are the earliest prose stories of the literature of Britain. The stories were compiled in Middle Welsh in the 12th–13th centuries from earlier oral traditions.

The Penguin Mabinogion will have a lengthy and learned introduction from an academic which will not be much read but it is part of the deal that it has to be there. What will get a mention? [I have deliberately not looked so this is by way of a hostage to fortune.]

• the text has been copied from C 12th-13th manuscripts
• the manuscripts are based on earlier oral traditions

What will be carefully ignored?

• the manuscripts have disappeared
• second sight is required to know what oral traditions were extant in 12th-13th century Wales

But not to worry

• manuscripts are famous for disappearing
• bards are famous for keeping oral traditions going
• the Welsh are famous for their bards
• Celts in general are famous for their second sight

Reluctantly we shall have to let this one through.

Oh no! We’ve let the Penguin marketing people through. The Mabinogion may be old but it is only medieval-old. What people really want is full-on Dark Age Arthurian swords-and-sorcery. As the Welsh have been famously writing these things down since before Arthur met Merlin, they will have no trouble supplying it

The collection also includes treasures such as the Book of Taliesin. Taliesin (fl. 6th century AD) was an early Brythonic poet of Sub-Roman Britain whose work has possibly survived in a Middle Welsh manuscript, the Book of Taliesin. Taliesin was a renowned bard who is believed to have sung at the courts of at least three Brythonic kings.

Who needs Cecil Sharp when you’ve got the National Library of Wales? 

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You are entitled to a 'review copy' because of past services but due to the provisions of the Unsolicited Goods Act being toughened up you have to ask.
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Mick Harper wrote:
The Mabinogion got a mention in my latest, Borry, .. You are entitled to a 'review copy' because of past services but due to the provisions of the Unsolicited Goods Act being toughened up you have to ask.


What's the latest?

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published while you were in prison


Quiet please!!! I'm not out yet. M'Lady has not granted parole yet, she thinks I'm "Working From Home". She didn't ask what "work" I'm doing, so I haven't said.
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This Week's Archaeomycology Quiz

How many species of lichen are there in Britain?


Two thousand and counting

Why are some of them only extant at Stonehenge, Avebury and on sarsen stones?


Nor me, but I'd like some theories.
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