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Wile E. Coyote
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| Mick Harper wrote: | | I am currently reading the Approved Orthodox Text for the Robin Hood/Templar period, "England Under The Norman and Angevin Kings, 1075-1225" (OUP) which I recommend to anyone who needs a good intro to the period (which turned out to include me!). The most interesting underlying message is that King John was the geezer that introduced most of the things we think of when it comes to Modern Britain, including Parliament itself. I cannot yet make up my mind whether this is because he was very good or very bad. |
Magna Carta enshrined that the English Church should be free, and liberties inviolable, 320 years before the formal rejection of papal authority. So I think it is fair to say that John, good or bad, was well ahead of his time.
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Mick Harper
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Ooh, outing the Magna Carta would be cool. I did notice a rash of similar charters were issued in various European countries which I thought suspicious but you're the point guard on this one.
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Wile E. Coyote
In: Arizona
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When you look at the coin evidence you find something mysterious.
On every "English" John coin, according to ortho, the legend on the obverse (head) side reads 'HENRICVS REX'. (Henry, King) regardless of whether it is believed the king was a Henry, Richard or John.
There were no "English" coins bearing the name Richard or John (more correctly Iohannes-rex, as the letter J does not exist) although, according to ortho, Richard did issue some coinage in France, and John in Ireland.
This always struck Wiley as strange.
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Wile E. Coyote
In: Arizona
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Of course if you were to ask why this usage of 'HENRICVS REX' on Richard and John coins, was, you will be reassured by the answer along the lines of it was because of the popularity or relaibility of the established iconography.
"So this happened before with issues of other English kings?"
"Don't be stupid".
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Mick Harper
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In: London
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Perhaps all the coins are in Austria where Richard is supposed to be in gaol with only Blondel to keep him company. "I'm fed up being King in his place," quoth John, "I must set about collecting his ransom as soon as."
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Wile E. Coyote
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Mick Harper
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In: London
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They were all Plantagenets and Plantagenets began with Henry (the II) so it's just about possible they're doing a Julius on us i.e. all Roman emperors having Caesar on them.
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Wile E. Coyote
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| Mick wrote: | | They were all Plantagenets and Plantagenets began with Henry (the II) so it's just about possible they're doing a Julius on us i.e. all Roman emperors having Caesar on them. |
| Henry is a masculine given name derived from Old French Henri / Henry, itself derived from the Old Frankish name Heimeric, from Common Germanic *Haimarīks (from *haima- "home" and *rīk- "ruler") |
If Home Ruler is possibly a title as you suggest.
| Richard is a male given name. It originates, via Old French, from Old Frankish and is a compound of the words descending from Proto-Germanic *rīk- 'ruler, leader, king' and *hardu- 'strong, brave, hardy', and it therefore means 'strong in rule'.[1][2 |
Then Strong Ruler is also surely a title.
Maybe one is the Augustus the other a Caesar?
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Pete Jones
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In: Virginia
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This whole names-confused-with-titles issue is very confusing, as Wiley said (probably decades ago). Going from memory, the titles "Kaiser," "Ceasar", and "Czar/Tsar" are all supposed to derive from a legendary Iranian king named Kai Khosrow.
Wiki says:
| The name Kay Khosrow derives from Avestan's Kauui Haosrauua?ha, meaning "seer/poet who has good fame" |
So, Caesar was Haosrauuanha??
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Boreades
In: finity and beyond
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Kay Khosrow
| Before Kay Khosrow was born, his father was murdered in Turan by his maternal grandfather Afrasiab. |
Sounds vaguely familiar?
| He was the son of the Iranian prince Siavash who married princess Farangis of Turan while in exile. |
The exiled King. Sounds vaguely familiar?
Don't forget his Cup.
| the Cup of Kay Khosrow (Cup of Djemscheed or Jaam-e Jam, or cup of Kay Khosrow in Persian: ??? ??) is a cup of divination which, in Persian mythology, was long possessed by the rulers of ancient Persia. |
Useful.
| The cup ("J?m") was said to be filled with an elixir of immortality |
Sounds vaguely familiar? Grael chalice etc
You have chosen ... wisely.
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Boreades
In: finity and beyond
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I don't know what's happening - duplicate posts, and it won't let me delete them, all I can do is edit them.
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Boreades
In: finity and beyond
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Also getting some bizarre error messages.
Could not insert new word matches
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Boreades
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Pete Jones
Site Admin
In: Virginia
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I've been getting the same thing. It started about the same time that all my apostrophes turned into gibberish.
But I've found that if you ignore the message, it actually posts just fine. I think.
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Mick Harper
Site Admin
In: London
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Bear with it, chaps. I've done what I could but the truth is I can't afford to turn the AEL into a Rolls Royce so it will have to remain a Rolls Canardly for the time being. I can always do (and have done) a bit of editing if you just bang on.
Let me know if things get too bad and I'll take up the cudgels with my Man in the Software Hat.
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