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Mick Harper
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In: London
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Bosch is a great name when it comes to small consumer durables like, for instance, e-bikes. They go to enormous pains to ensure theirs are safe and street-legal in all respects. Their top o' the line models costs several thousand pounds and are (to me) unaccountably popular.
As you might imagine, theses supabikes do visually resemble e-motorbikes in various respects. Bells and whistles and all that sort of stuff. The Birmingham police regularly stop Bosch-cyclists who are riding legally because they think an e-motorbike is being ridden illegally.
| Hilarity all round when explanations are exchanged? |
No, Brummie plod always lends a deaf ear, confiscates and then destroys the Bosch. As they are fully entitled to do--are enjoined to do--if it were an e-motorbike being ridden illegally. Eventually the West Midlands Police Authority might get round to paying out compensation to the tearful owner but it seems to make little difference to life on the Birmingham street.
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Pete Jones
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| Grant wrote: | | I just think that when Space X and Tesla go bust and crash the US economy, there will be books explaining that he was just a con man. In fact, it will become received opinion. |
The book Ludicrous by Edward Neidermeyer has gone in this direction. Written in 2019. My liberal friends were decrying it then, but probably coming around to it now
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Mick Harper
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In: London
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The difference between Musk and a conman are so gargantuan and of such longevity, they cannot be confused. Even though I freely concede that really good conmen come up with schemes that mean they can be confused, gargantuanly and for all time.
The best everyday illustration of this principle is internet scams. Everyone falls for a good new one because we don't realise a scam is even a possibility even though we spend our lives watching out for internet scams.
Musk, as far as I can see, suffers from the fact that most get-rich-quick people turn out to have been scammers at some level. We are so furious if we ourselves believed in the man, even admired him, we are determined to damn them all, just to be on the safe side.
| Pete wrote: | | My liberal friends were decrying it then, but probably coming around to it now |
Yes, he made a mistake there.
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Grant
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1) he promises profits in the far distant future. SpaceX is worth ten trillion once they've established a colony on Mars etc
2) every business he has "founded" was actually set up by someone else. He bought each company - first one with Daddy's money - and then predicted enormous profits in that distant future, after establishing that he must now be called the "founder"
3) not a single genuine innovation has come from this Edison of the 21st Century. Electric cars existed in 1890! They have slightly better batteries now but they aren't that good
4) his companies hoover up billions in direct and indirect subsidies. Genuine profits - never. Just wait till we are on Mars!
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