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Mick Harper wrote:
No is not generally acceptable as a refutation, Borry. No matter how authoritative the naysayer.


No, thank you.
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From a list of Stonehenge theories. It starts at seventeen so I'll have to track down the other sixteen. The author is an acquaintance of mine and Hatty's so maybe ours will be one of them. https://www.megalithic.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=Forum&file=viewtopic&topic=9187&forum=4&start=20

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#17: Stonehenge as a Neolithic calendar: Author: Timothy Darvill
The author argues that the numerology of these sarsen elements materialises a perpetual calendar based on a tropical solar year of 365.25 days. The indigenous development of such a calendar in north-western Europe is possible, but an Eastern Mediterranean origin is also considered. The adoption of a solar calendar was associated with the spread of solar cosmologies during the third millennium BC and was used to regularise festivals and ceremonies? Cambridge University Press: "Keeping time at Stonehenge"

#18: Stonehenge as a temple built by the Romans.: Author: Inigo Jones & John Web
Jones was also known for insisting on an idea that seems remarkably improbable today: that Stonehenge was a Roman temple, constructed according to the principles of classical architecture British Library article

#19: Stonehenge as a temple built by the Danes: Author: Walter Charleton (1663)
Charleton concluded that Stonehenge must have been the work of the Danes, since they had the technology and skill to transport and elevate the monolithic stones, and that the monument was built as a meeting place for the election and coronation of the Danish kings. Royal College of Physicians

#20: Stonehenge as the Domain of the ancestors: Authors: Parker Pearson and Ramilisonina
"where, it is proposed, bluestone and sarsen settings materialised the concept of the ancestral dead, the domain of the ancestors." {contrasting with} "The Cursus.. contains no ancestors (i.e. standing stones)" Sidestone Press: Stonehenge for the Ancestors

#21: Stonehenge as the axis mundi / Unification hypothesis : Author: Mike Parker Pearson
"this place {Stonehenge} would thus constitute an axis mundi that was returned to time and again throughout the Mesolithic and into the Neolithic. Eventually the locale would be monumentalised in stone, perhaps to enhance and memorialise this gathering-place for the unification of Britain’s Neolithic farmers from across southern Britain.... The bluestone circle of Stonehenge stage 1 embodied a unification of ancestral identities with southwest Wales" and Stage 2 a "response designed to reinforce and create unity amongst culturally late Neolithic populations...." Sidestone Press: Stonehenge for the Ancestors Part 2

#22: Stonehenge as a Sun & Moon calendar: Author: Neil L Thomas
"Stonehenge Sacred Symbolism reveals the Bible’s Old Testament tale of the disappearance of Sodom and Gomorrah actually occurred about 2250 BC.... The pre-historic peoples of Ireland, Britain, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Iceland, France and Germany exhibit similar elements of ancient beliefs and a Sun calendar: sixteen months, four weeks a month, five days a week, 365 days a year.... The Stonehenge Moon calendar featured two rings of pits dug into the subsoil" Stonehenge Sacred Symbolism

#23: Stonehenge as the Speculum of the All-pervading Glance Author: Unknown (referred to as the London Druids by EO Gordon, 1914)
"The Druids, it is said, by means of a most powerful reflecting mirror of metal called “Dyrch Haul Kibddar” filled the circle (Stonehenge) with a blaze of glory from on high" Dyrch Haul Kibddar probably refers to Drych Ail Cibddar: recorded in the Triads as one of the famous enchanters, under the name of the three "priv Uedrithiawg Ynys Prydain," refer to The Myvyrian Archaiology (of Wales) for more information. EO Gordon: ‘Prehistoric London’, first published in 1914


#24: Stonehenge as a monument (transported from Ireland by giants) to slain men Author: Geoffrey of Monmouth (12th Century)
"Geoffrey tells us that the high king, Aurelius Ambrosius, wanted to create a fitting memorial to the slain men. Merlin suggested an expedition to Ireland for the purpose of transplanting the Giant's Ring stone circle to Britain. According to Geoffrey of Monmouth, the stones of the Giant's Ring were originally brought from Africa to Ireland by giants..." Good summary at Iversity.org
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The Stonehenge list drew a response from 'Sem', a long-time contributor who once upon a time posted a critical but fair review of TME on the Megalithic Portal site

Sem wrote:
My own personal theory is that around 5,500yrs ago a group of early farmers had a shaman/wiseman who, being able to foretell the future, thought "I will create a puzzle for one of my line to spend a lifetime solving.
Whether he solves it is irrelevant, but it will give him a purpose when the future seems as dark as this new farming idea. May the gods help him on his path."
Obviously this Wiseman was wise.

To which the compiler of the list replied

We'lll have to assign that one as no #25 Sem!

Thought there were more than this. But if there were, I've forgotten them.

So that's now the last theory on the list.
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Sem gave a right slagging to THOBR though.
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#23: Stonehenge as the Speculum of the All-pervading Glance Author: Unknown (referred to as the London Druids by EO Gordon, 1914)
"The Druids, it is said, by means of a most powerful reflecting mirror of metal called “Dyrch Haul Kibddar” filled the circle (Stonehenge) with a blaze of glory from on high" Dyrch Haul Kibddar probably refers to Drych Ail Cibddar: recorded in the Triads as one of the famous enchanters, under the name of the three "priv Uedrithiawg Ynys Prydain," refer to The Myvyrian Archaiology (of Wales) for more information. EO Gordon: 'Prehistoric London', first published in 1914


The reference for this is rather vague.

It's mentioned here
http://johnchaple.co.uk/telescope.html
Referencing a link to a now-dead site
http://www.keithhunt.com/London2.html

But there's an online copy of EO Gordon: "Prehistoric London" here:
https://archive.org/details/in.gov.ignca.10042

Readers of TME may recall many conversations about the use of tin mirrors, and the reinvention of that by Jonathan Morris.
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Just reading Francis Pryor's Scenes from Prehistoric Life. It's about the major prehistoric sites in Britain and is quite interesting but, as always with Pryor, his thinking always runs on the same lines.

Every hand axe found in a bog was a sacrificial offering, carefully placed as an offering to the Gods. Every stone circle is placed in a ,liminal, place on a boundary between the place of the living and the dead. Every colourful hand-axe was a religious offering.
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But here's a good one:

"In many tribal societies the consumption of alcohol is, and was, confined to religious and ceremonial occasions, such as the interment of bodies, the construction of tombs and during feasts on special days."
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New Mineral analysis indicates Stonehenge’s Altar Stone originated from Scotland is a report posted up by The Megalithic Portal on the suspected Scottish origin of the Stonehenge Altar Stone, though the scientists, assuming their conclusions are correct, admit to still being puzzled over the means of transport

This is a genuinely shocking result, but if plate tectonics and atomic physics are correct - and there is no indication they are not - then the Altar Stone is Scottish. What we don't know is how or why it travelled the length of Britain to its current location as a significant part of the Stonehenge monument.

There's a lot of information about the mineral composition of rocks but the theory seems to rely on two premises

Plate tectonics and precise radiometric age dating are the keys to this discovery.


In passing, the article makes an interesting observation about the make-up of Steep Holm, an island in the Bristol Channel halfway between Birkbeck Island at Weston-Super-Mare and Sully Island, a causewayed tidal island, at Swanbridge, South Wales.

The prevailing almost century old belief was that the Altar Stone and a companion sandstone now known as the Lower Palaeozoic Sandstone were collected from the shores of Milford Haven (the exact outcrop for the Lower Palaeozoic Sandstone on the shore-line was identified by Sir Kingsley Dunham the leading geologist of the day). They were said to have been shipped or rafted from there along the Severn Estuary to Somerset and then punted down rivers to Salisbury Plain, together with the Preseli bluestones. Claimed proofs of this route included dropped/lost bluestones found on Steep Holm and rumoured orthostats resting on the bottom of Milford Harbour.

In the two decades since, piece by piece, detailed petrographical and geochemical work has shown all this to be unlikely. The Steep Holm rocks are nothing like any rock associated with Stonehenge or even Salisbury Plain, they may even be ship’s ballast.


https://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=2146415628

We noted elsewhere that Weston-Super-Mare is the western terminus, or start, of the coast-to-coast route connecting the English Channel to the Bristol Channel. The southern end of Weston Bay is overlooked by Breen Down and the northern end is marked by Worlebury 'hillfort' overlooking Birnbeck Island, formerly a causeway tidal island before the pier was built. Birnbeck Pier is the only pier that connects an island to the mainland.
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Ain't it grand when archaeologists start bandying around plate tectonics and atomic physics as if they understood them. Stick to whittling flint into stone axes for tourists, chaps.

Ain't it grand when geologists start bandying around Lower Palaeozoic Sandstone as if they could tell a natural rock apart from compressed building material? Stick to whittling archaeologists with your hammers, chaps.

We never did get to grips with the megalithic geography of this part of the world when we were last there on hols but we're down that way again next month so maybe we can send out some research teams. We'll tell 'em it's National Trust, they like that.
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This headline from a Smithsonian article sent to me caught my AE eye

Historians Thought This Was a Medieval Site Linked to King Arthur. It Turned Out to Be a Mysterious Monument Built 4,000 Years Earlier

That's quite a big mistake to make. The Smithsonian referring to King Arthur as medieval may be technically correct but it's scandalously misleading for the average Smithsonian reader.

Known as King Arthur’s Hall, the unique site is located in Bodmin Moor in Cornwall. It’s about 160 feet long and 70 feet wide, and its walls are made of 56 earth-covered stones, which once stood upright. Now, they are all leaning, lying flat or buried. “There isn’t another one of these anywhere,” James Gossip, lead archaeologist of the Cornwall Archaeological Unit, tells the Guardian’s Esther Addley. “There is nothing built at that time or subsequently in prehistory that is a rectangular earth and stone bank with a setting of stone orthostats around the interior. There is no … parallel.”

Certainly not in the medieval era so how come they thought it medieval? It wasn't a matter of local folklore

The saga began a few years ago, when local archaeologists started questioning King Arthur’s Hall’s medieval origins. In response, Cornwall National Landscape, which protects local lands, commissioned an investigation to learn more.

I would have thought, if it had been early medieval, the place ought to have been swarming with archaeologists from day one. But perhaps the Anglo-Saxons not reaching Cornwall put them off.

Now covered with grass, the site was previously thought to be a medieval livestock pen built around 1000 C.E. Now, researchers have concluded the construction is actually 4,000 years older—dating to at least 3000 B.C.E., during the Neolithic period.

It probably was a livestock pen in 3000 BC so what should we give them, half marks?

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/historians-thought-this-was-a-medieval-site-linked-to-king-arthur-it-turned-out-to-be-a-mysterious-monument-built-4000-years-earlier-180985470/
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