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Wile E. Coyote
In: Arizona
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I am starting to think that the Hamas leaders who claimed that their fighters will be safe in these tunnels, might not have realised that the construction of said tunnels was not as advanced as they believed. That's the problem with building work if you pay up front and then don't oversee it.
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Mick Harper
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In: London
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There is not a single Hamas fighter in a tunnel. Does nobody know anything about urban warfare?
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Grant
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There aren't many tunnels anyway. It's a con to justify the bombing.
Do these people not realise how bloody hard it is to dig a hole in the ground, let alone a tunnel?
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Wile E. Coyote
In: Arizona
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Mick Harper
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In: London
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There aren't many tunnels anyway. It's a con to justify the bombing. | This is a non-sequitur.
Do these people not realise how bloody hard it is to dig a hole in the ground, let alone a tunnel? |
Does Grant not know digging tunnels is so easy-peasy in the friable soil that digging them has been a Gazan national sport forever?
The network of tunnels claim has come in part from Hamas. It could be disinformation, of course. |
Five hundred kilometers seems about right though I treat the claim about their purpose being civilian bomb shelters as propaganda. The Israelis did a cute bit of photo-journalism of their own. They showed us some guns'n'ammo in a hospital locker and asked to camera, "What are these doing in a hospital?' To which the answer is, "They probably belong to a Hamas soldier injured in the fighting." To the unspoken question, "Is that all you found?" the footage switched to rows of guns'n'ammo laid out nicely for the camera. The voice over continued to talk about the hospital but the guns'n'ammo were clearly found elsewhere before the hospital was entered.
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Wile E. Coyote
In: Arizona
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Wiley reckons it's pretty strange that, given the Hamas' ideas of governance is to to end all the evils of secularism, ie they are conservative/pro authority, they want the foundation of Sharia as the basis for a constituion and law, they want women to veil, do away with interest rates, outlaw irreligious forms of art, alcohol, and end tourism etc, that their western supporters are the young (and those young at heart) that are into anti-authoritariansim, taking their clothes off, or not wearing much, borrowing credit, breaking taboos, alchohol, drugs and "letting their hair down" (behaving badly) on holiday.......
One side is at some point going to be disappointed by the other. This coalition won't last.
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Mick Harper
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In: London
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There was an interview with ex-prime minister, Ehud Olmert, on Newsnight. I didn't think it possible but the old buffer actually persuaded me there might be some justification for the Israel Project after all. Of course none of the things he spoke about came to pass when he was the actual prime minister but one mustn't be all gloom-and-doom.
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Wile E. Coyote
In: Arizona
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It's becoming clear that many of the journalistic failings covering the Russia-Ukraine war and the Hamas-Isareal war are down to one individual, the Knight in shining white armour (jacket), Martin Bell.
It was Bell as far as I can see who came up with these notions of the journalist that cares, ie one that will not stand neutrally between good and evil, right and wrong, the victim and the oppressor, and so on. In practice this means that many journalists give a slant to opinions shared by bodies such as human rights organizations (Amnesty International) and international legal institutions such as UN that they think are committed to noble global values and legal objectivity. It is then not long before this slant becomes a journalistic cause (a sort of humanist journalism) and this further leads to the notion of journalist as "heroic" "chivalrous" Knight operating on the side of the oppressed in in a war zone. The more war zones, the more important the journalist. The OSINT is acting as a Sancho to all this nonsense.
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Mick Harper
Site Admin
In: London
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War reporters are selected on the basis of being 'on the side' of whoever has sent them. The real bias is that everyone is obsessed with the humanitarian angle. In every war ever fought, up to and including Ukraine and Gaza, the sufferings of civilians (and the infrastructure supporting them) are wholly irrelevant. Nowadays nine-tenths of all reporting is concerned with it. The result is that... the result no longer matters. Whoever suffers most, wins. Blimey, Germany would have won both world wars on that measure.
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Mick Harper
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In: London
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Do we agree with this proposal that, because of the current dislocation caused by the war in Gaza, the people of Israel should be helped to relocate in the west? Remember, it's a war crime to permanently remove a settled people from their homeland. My fear is that they won't want to go back at the end of hostilities.
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Hatty
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In: Berkshire
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Agreed though you'd have a hard time dislodging the settlers.
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Mick Harper
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In: London
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Oh no, they can keep them. We could put in for a hundred K-Tel Avivians for our hi-tec industries and maybe another fifty thousand kibbutzim to pick fruit and veg. But they make surprisingly good social workers as well.
How do you feel about eugenic controls to prevent them mating with our native four-wheelers? We don't want them getting ideas above their station. And I'm not talking about Totteridge & Whetstone on the Northern Line.
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Wile E. Coyote
In: Arizona
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Mick Harper wrote: | Do we agree with this proposal that, because of the current dislocation caused by the war in Gaza, the people of Israel should be helped to relocate in the west? Remember, it's a war crime to permanently remove a settled people from their homeland. My fear is that they won't want to go back at the end of hostilities. |
I worry for any of those 1.5 million Arab Israelis ending up in Dublin.
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Mick Harper
Site Admin
In: London
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They still weren't identifying him a day later on either Channel 4 News or Newsnight. Maybe he was Oirish and they're embarrassed or he just wan't carrying ID. Never mind, let's have a riot anyway.
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Mick Harper
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In: London
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I worry for any of those 1.5 million Arab Israelis ending up in Dublin. |
That reminds me, what's happened to freedom of movement, post-Brexit? In the good old days, before Brexin, Paddies could not only come and go, they could vote in our elections and help themselves to my benefits. Then we were in the EU together and ... actually I can't remember what the situation was then, it seems so long ago. But then we were rent asunder but down the Irish Sea. Can the Northern Irish vote in our elections?
There should be a pamphlet or something explaining it all.
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