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There is certainly a misunderstanding and I'm not sure where it lies either.

People in Etruria now speak a dialect of Italian, but this bears no resemblance to Etruscan as known from inscriptions, ...

That's assuming there was a rustic Etruscan patois. What if the Etruscans spoke a non-Italian, not even Romance, language because they were (merely) a foreign ruling elite? Etruscan might have died ra ...

There are something like 13,000 Etruscan "documents" (i.e. all written records including epigraphic and numismatic inscriptions) discovered/collected so far. So I would say they do present a ...

Bernie, I'm busy today, but I'll answer you in the next days. My answer will entirely be inspired by "History of the Origins of the French Language" by Adolphe Granier de Cassagnac (1872). I ...

I think you misunderstand orthodoxy's position. They think these are genuine discrete languages, it used to be "Celtic" but they are a bit vaguer these days. Etruscan is slightly different s ...

Lepontic, Raetic, Venetic, Logurian, Picene, Umbrian, Etruscan, Faliscan, Sabellian, Volscian, Oscan, Messapic and finally Sicel
Perhaps you can check these assumptions:
1. None of these languages e ...

When did French begin to use -s to make its plurals (chat-chats)? Is there any point in so-called "Old French" where the plurals are mostly not -s?
In the first French writings, before the ...

There was the French tennis player Jean Borotra, who was called by English newspapers 'the Bounding Basque'. Do the French call him the Galloping Gascon?
No, he was le Basque bondissant. The terms ar ...

Mais oui! Nick is saying that you do have the w sound but you don't use a w.
Our posts have crossed, but I was saying that, except for oui, ouest and ouistiti (marmoset in English), there is no w- in ...

"The Romans represented the w-sound by using two of their V letters, or two of their U letters. Later, the Anglo-Saxons preferred to use their runic letter wyn to depict the w-sound. However, the ...

Is everybody else happy with this disappearance of grandad Viking's language?
This disappearance has really happened. In 911, the Viking Rollo has legally gained the territory of Normandy. Thirty-two ...

Guernsey patois, which is Norman-French bar the shouting, was spoken and written until quite recently (even, allegedly, by my great-grandparents). Thar's where to look.
Definitely. If you look at thi ...

I must admit that to say that Anglo-Norman is "English, not French" is at best a rash short cut, at the worst completely false (you know that better than me).

According to the conventional wisdom the fact that the English dictionaries see "ward" and "gaol" as from Anglo-Norman and the French etymological dictionaries see them as fro ...

But that would take us back to the warrantee/guarantee, ward/guard, garden/yard Norman thing, and we don't want to go back there, do we?
Some of us are very familiar with the GU = W rule that means g ...

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Topic: Matters Arising
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	Forum: The History of Britain Revealed Posted: 11:44 am Subject: Matters Arising
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	There is certainly a misunderstanding and I'm not sure where it lies either. People in Etruria now speak a dialect of Italian, but this bears no resemblance to Etruscan as known from inscriptions, ...
Topic: Matters Arising
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	Forum: The History of Britain Revealed Posted: 7:07 pm Subject: Matters Arising
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	That's assuming there was a rustic Etruscan patois. What if the Etruscans spoke a non-Italian, not even Romance, language because they were (merely) a foreign ruling elite? Etruscan might have died ra ...
Topic: Matters Arising
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	Forum: The History of Britain Revealed Posted: 11:02 am Subject: Matters Arising
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	There are something like 13,000 Etruscan "documents" (i.e. all written records including epigraphic and numismatic inscriptions) discovered/collected so far. So I would say they do present a ...
Topic: Matters Arising
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	Forum: The History of Britain Revealed Posted: 12:12 pm Subject: Matters Arising
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	Bernie, I'm busy today, but I'll answer you in the next days. My answer will entirely be inspired by "History of the Origins of the French Language" by Adolphe Granier de Cassagnac (1872). I ...
Topic: Matters Arising
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	Forum: The History of Britain Revealed Posted: 3:53 pm Subject: Matters Arising
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	I think you misunderstand orthodoxy's position. They think these are genuine discrete languages, it used to be "Celtic" but they are a bit vaguer these days. Etruscan is slightly different s ...
Topic: Matters Arising
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	Forum: The History of Britain Revealed Posted: 2:04 pm Subject: Matters Arising
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	Lepontic, Raetic, Venetic, Logurian, Picene, Umbrian, Etruscan, Faliscan, Sabellian, Volscian, Oscan, Messapic and finally Sicel Perhaps you can check these assumptions: 1. None of these languages e ...
Topic: French Translation
alincthun Replies: 636 Views: 286168	Forum: The History of Britain Revealed Posted: 9:48 am Subject: French Translation
alincthun Replies: 636 Views: 286168	When did French begin to use -s to make its plurals (chat-chats)? Is there any point in so-called "Old French" where the plurals are mostly not -s? In the first French writings, before the ...
Topic: Matters Arising
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	Forum: The History of Britain Revealed Posted: 2:45 pm Subject: Matters Arising
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	There was the French tennis player Jean Borotra, who was called by English newspapers 'the Bounding Basque'. Do the French call him the Galloping Gascon? No, he was le Basque bondissant. The terms ar ...
Topic: Matters Arising
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	Forum: The History of Britain Revealed Posted: 1:38 pm Subject: Matters Arising
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	Mais oui! Nick is saying that you do have the w sound but you don't use a w. Our posts have crossed, but I was saying that, except for oui, ouest and ouistiti (marmoset in English), there is no w- in ...
Topic: Matters Arising
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	Forum: The History of Britain Revealed Posted: 1:26 pm Subject: Matters Arising
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	"The Romans represented the w-sound by using two of their V letters, or two of their U letters. Later, the Anglo-Saxons preferred to use their runic letter wyn to depict the w-sound. However, the ...
Topic: Matters Arising
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	Forum: The History of Britain Revealed Posted: 2:30 am Subject: Re: Patois Normande
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	Is everybody else happy with this disappearance of grandad Viking's language? This disappearance has really happened. In 911, the Viking Rollo has legally gained the territory of Normandy. Thirty-two ...
Topic: Matters Arising
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	Forum: The History of Britain Revealed Posted: 8:51 am Subject: Matters Arising
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	Guernsey patois, which is Norman-French bar the shouting, was spoken and written until quite recently (even, allegedly, by my great-grandparents). Thar's where to look. Definitely. If you look at thi ...
Topic: Matters Arising
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	Forum: The History of Britain Revealed Posted: 10:38 am Subject: Matters Arising
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	I must admit that to say that Anglo-Norman is "English, not French" is at best a rash short cut, at the worst completely false (you know that better than me).
Topic: Matters Arising
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	Forum: The History of Britain Revealed Posted: 10:11 am Subject: Re: Frankish and Anglo-Norman
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	According to the conventional wisdom the fact that the English dictionaries see "ward" and "gaol" as from Anglo-Norman and the French etymological dictionaries see them as fro ...
Topic: Matters Arising
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	Forum: The History of Britain Revealed Posted: 10:04 am Subject: Matters Arising
alincthun Replies: 3607 Views: 1542499	But that would take us back to the warrantee/guarantee, ward/guard, garden/yard Norman thing, and we don't want to go back there, do we? Some of us are very familiar with the GU = W rule that means g ...