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Wile E. Coyote


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But never, never forget. We're just as much twats as everyone else. I think it goes with the territory.



Then Toad began to bang his head against the wall.

“Why are you banging your head against the wall?” asked Frog.

“I hope that if I bang my head against the wall hard enough, it will help me to think of a story,” said Toad.

“I am feeling much better now, Toad,” said Frog. “I do not think I need a story anymore.”

“Then you get out of bed and let me get into it,” said Toad, “because now I feel terrible.”
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Ishmael wrote:
This is absolutely astounding.


It's astounding I agree.

I came across this last year:
https://ctruth.today/2020/06/11/people-who-question-ed-history/
and using Stephen's notes stated looking into the whole question of 'my history' & where it came from ... really.

Coincidentally, I watched something today on Talking Pictures, "This England" which is how most people "learn" things by watching re-enactments/presentations. My schooldays and teaching career were filled with the same via universal textbooks and the exams.
Most people simply accept what they're told but Johnson asks, what did our parents really know about their past - so go back a few generations more and everything gets really blurry IN FACT.
Nowadays everything's so tied up and organised by the accredited experts; The Past seems to be all sorted out. Move along folks, nothing to see here. I beg to differ!

I'm glad here's interest in the questions Johnson raised in his late Victorian era, when people were still able to think things through imho. It must have something to do with mass education (see John Taylor Gatto)
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Hi Nick

Look forward to hearing more from you.

Coincidentally, I watched something today on Talking Pictures, "This England" which is how most people "learn" things by watching re-enactments/presentations.


What if it was always such, but say some re-enacted battles had not been originally fought. They were in fact just teaching exercises?
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"What if it was always such, but say some re-enacted battles had not been originally fought. They were in fact just teaching exercises?"


That's the thing - almost everything wasn't as it appeared, esp so-called historical events. Documents exist ... so many of them lol

Even the artifacts, buildings: not what they're mocked up to be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFzIPk3y_Eo

"We have so much to unlearn" Anon
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Wile E. Coyote


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OK the Romans are the Normans. Or should that be the the other way round?

That is very interesting.

Looks like you have a knowledge of buildings, can you post up some others where you, rather than others, think ortho has it wrong?
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Wile E. Coyote wrote:
OK the Romans are the Normans. Or should that be the the other way round?


I had figured this out independently.

And I've still got a lot of stuff none of the revisionists have yet hit upon!
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Mick Harper wrote:
Should we start our own channel?


I will be. Once the book is done.

I'll be putting up stuff on bits and bobs we've discussed here. Low budget. Talk into the camera. Production values will increase as the audience (hopefully) grows. You and I can experiment with talking to/yelling at one another on camera as well.
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Ishmael wrote:
Wile E. Coyote wrote:
OK the Romans are the Normans. Or should that be the the other way round?


I had figured this out independently.

And I've still got a lot of stuff none of the revisionists have yet hit upon!


Brilliant. Look forward to it.
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I had figured this out independently.

And I've still got a lot of stuff none of the revisionists have yet hit upon!


Brilliant. Look forward to it.


Me too: Can't wait ... #AcmeResearchInc
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Mr Weech, the quote function is so simple that there are foetuses as yet unborn that are using it with considerable facility. Though what they've got to quote is beyond me. Either master it -- along with the other simple conventions we use and which are set out somewhere on this site -- or give me a bell and I'll give you our standard forty-five second tuition course. And while I'm on the subject, get that house of yours repaired, it looks as if it's about to fall down around your ears, which would be a shame as our benefits package includes only a rudimentary burial.

Nicholas Marmaduke Weech
"The Great Communicator"
Except for the Quote Function

PS Why can't the rest of you follow the rules? They are there for very good reasons (to do with what human beings do and do not like reading off cathode ray screens) so while I appreciate you have to constantly demonstrate your total contempt for all rules-based societies, I wish you wouldn't do it on my time.
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Mick Harper wrote:

PS Why can't the rest of you follow the rules? They are there for very good reasons (to do with what human beings do and do not like reading off cathode ray screens) so while I appreciate you have to constantly demonstrate your total contempt for all rules-based societies, I wish you wouldn't do it on my time.


Actually Nick has a partial excuse, he is both new and drunk on mojitos'.

I am patiently waiting to see if you will allow me to approach Wildwinds so we can post up some decent images on COIN.

Is this OK? Feel free to veto, I will see if I can get round this some other way.

https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/i.html

BTW thanks for both reminding us and cutting us all some slack.
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Mick Harper
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Wiley, you are free to do anything you like. You are a 'trusted contributor' (sash at own cost). If it requires something technical at our end, sing out.

BTW thanks for both reminding us and cutting us all some slack.

The worst offenders are people who persist in plonking down a sequence of one line paragraphs. The reader's brain unconsciously says to itself, "This plonker hasn't bothered to organise his thoughts."

However it is the reader's eye that is more important. Eyes in many cases. Human beings are put off by a) too much text and b) too much space. That is why each post should be relatively short, should be broken up into short (but not overly short) paragraphs, with a single line space between each. It's called the tabloid principle and works very well even if the text is not in the least tabloidal. Tabloid newspapers are designed for people who don't otherwise do much reading but the same principle applies to people who are not used to reading things off a screen (all of us). That's why many blogs are never read. Their composers think they are presenting academic-style text, which they are, but forget it it is not being presented in academic textbook form.

Oh yes, and quotes come with a line space so don't add one of your own.

Oh yes, and "Mick Harper wrote" comes with a line space, so don't add one of your own.

And now potty training. Holding a piece of toilet tissue in one hand, rise in a single flowing motion and apply to the bottom which you will find directly behind you.
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I have been ploughing through c-truth on your behalf (well, you do pay my wages) and while Wiley's verdict is so far broadly correct, it does contain some useful lists of sources and general information. The following are what I culled from the months up to May 2019 which I judge may be of interest to the drones hanging around this gaff.

https://ctruth.today/2019/02/04/establishment-dates-of-museums/ and https://ctruth.today/2019/02/04/five-oldest-museums/
Hatty, please check in case we've made any boo-boos in Missing Persons

https://ctruth.today/2019/03/30/biography-of-abraham-wheelocke/ and https://ctruth.today/2019/03/30/jean-mabillon/
One Brit and one Furriner I selected from a whole galaxy of doubtful coves

https://ctruth.today/2019/03/30/fomenkos-fundamental-english-chronicles/ Fomenko's verdict on the Anglo-Saxon Chronicles

https://ctruth.today/2019/03/18/biography-of-james-ussher/ We have never quite managed to plumb his depths. Probably because there aren't any but still.
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https://ctruth.today/2019/03/06/current-countries-by-founding-dates/ A real treat for nerds though I wasn't entirely confident about the raw data. And don't call me a nerd

https://ctruth.today/2019/04/11/biography-of-sir-william-jones/ The inventor of Indo-European so the architect of many ills

https://ctruth.today/2019/05/27/numismatics/ One for Wiley if he didn't get that far. There is also another piece further down the page about 'Numismatists before 1900' which might contain something he doesn't already know.

I will resume my labours when Hercules has had a little lie down and a bun for his tea (it's Tuesday).
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It's now Sunday and I am thoroughly depressed. If I had known all this stuff, I would never have got started. It's an application of 'The Tyranny of Knowledge' with which we are so familiar. Take this https://ctruth.today/2020/05/30/investigating-the-parker-chronicle/ all about the earliest copy of the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle. There are a couple of more pieces over the following months about it and the Parker Library in general.

I just assumed the A/S Chron was a fake and Mathew Parker was a cheap chiseller from first principles. And how right I was. The point is though I wouldn't (necessarily) have written a book about them (books, they turn up in Missing Persons too) if I had known everyone else (in the World of Crazies) had got there before me.

Even so there is room for me if I am correct in assuming somebody has to bridge across from the Crazies to the real world and that someone is me. Of course, my own publishing history says it won't be but then again I am not primarily interested in historical fakes or even crazery in general. I am after much bigger game to not bag.
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Mick Harper wrote:
It's now Sunday and I am thoroughly depressed.

Treat it as a wonderful learning experience. It is, what it is.
Mick Harper wrote:
I just assumed the A/S Chron was a fake and Mathew Parker was a cheap chiseller from first principles. And how right I was.

This would be a tad worrying for Wiley, as having developed first principles' I now always discover that the evidence never matches. This used to worry me. Now I find it reassuring. There will be plenty left for future generations to do.

Even so there is room for me if I am correct in assuming somebody has to bridge across from the Crazies to the real world and that someone is me. Of course, my own publishing history says it won't be but then again I am not primarily interested in historical fakes or even crazery in general. I am after much bigger game to not bag.

I don't really get this fascination with straight line scriptocentric history (which is the current dominant paradigm for decoding the past), you were always going to get multiple so called alternate linear versions, that challenge the start, the middle or the end. This is how the paradigm renews itself.
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