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Mick Harper
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In: London
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What is the connection between this past, present and future male Aion dude and the Triple Goddess of nymph, matron and hag?
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Wile E. Coyote
In: Arizona
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| Mick Harper wrote: | | What is the connection between this past, present and future male Aion dude and the Triple Goddess of nymph, matron and hag? |
I suspect that the female version will outlive or try to protect the male version from a chronos type figure...we shall see.
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Wile E. Coyote
In: Arizona
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Wile E. Coyote
In: Arizona
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It is clear what has happened on planet Coyote.
Michael was Mithras............
| wki wrote: | | Mithra (Avestan: ð¬€ð¬ð¬šð¬Œð¬¨ Miθra, Old Persian: ðŽ·ðŽ°ðŽ¼ Miça) is the Zoroastrian angelic Divinity (yazata) of Covenant and Oath. In addition to being the Divinity of Contracts, Mithra is also a judicial figure, an all-seeing Protector of Truth, and the Guardian of Cattle, the Harvest and of The Waters. |
Time for me to go back to Coin and observe planet Auro.
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Mick Harper
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In: London
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Yes, I like that. If so it lends urgency to the quest for our own chronology: is their Michael derived from our Michael or the other way about?
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Wile E. Coyote
In: Arizona
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| Mick Harper wrote: | | Yes, I like that. If so it lends urgency to the quest for our own chronology: |
Wiley is going to stick with a mixture of fuzzy as well as concrete.
A young boy goes to a museum, inquisitively he asks the attendant, "How old is this dinosaur fossil? ....The attendant replies "110 million years and three days." The boy is not satisfied....."How do you actually know that?" ......"Well it has a label and I was appointed on Monday"...
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Wile E. Coyote
In: Arizona
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Conor McGregor, AKA Notorious talks about the importance of timing. "Timing beats speed" etc .....and it appears to me that the ancients were pretty interested.
Forget about chronology sequential time think kairos, the opportune time.
Seize the moment. Err Do it now? No! not now the time has to be opportune, and that my friends is why we need to listen to the ancient histories. These histories are there not to catalogue time for dullard orthodox historians, but to explain kairos.
We need to understand quality. The quantity of Chronos (Chrnological time) whether orthodox or revisionist is I believe largely irrelevant.
| If so it lends urgency to the quest for our own chronology |
Oops. I guess I am on my own.
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Mick Harper
Site Admin
In: London
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As an applied epistemologist so you should be. Though we will be right behind you. Or leaving you behind. Or fucking off.
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Ishmael
In: Toronto
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| Wile E. Coyote wrote: | | It is clear what has happened on planet Coyote. Michael was Mithras............ |
This is a really great idea! Significant!
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Wile wrote:
| Some strands have him with a female consort Aeternitas. Both are depicted on Roman Coinage. |
I'm glad I looked at your link. For on this image, where St George is depicted in typical dragon-slaying pose, the icon on the horse's backside is explained by the Ashmolean, no less, as
| The small figure behind the saint represents a Christian slave whom the saint rescued. |
These representations of St George quite commonly have Aeternitas riding bareback. She is clearly holding the Sun and Moon symbols in most.
This bears out, once again, Mick's assertion that the academic specialists don't talk to each other enough.
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Hatty
Site Admin
In: Berkshire
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She doesn't look much like a slave, not with that armour. Why do the good people at the Ashmolean think she is Aeternitas rather than one of those feisty goddesses, say, Artemis/Diana, or even Athena/Minerva?
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Because, I suspect they have been careless. There are many other occasions when the right caption has been matched to the right painting. On this occasion, the British Museum has the correct match:
...it is clearly based on this version of a popular tale:
| In Mytilene on Lesbos there was a church dedicated to Saint George. While planning the attack against this island, the Arabian [“Agarinoiâ€] pirates from Crete chose the day of the feast of the saint, when all the inhabitants were together in the church to celebrate the liturgy. Amongst those taken into captivity was the young and very handsome son of a widow. The Emir of Crete made him his personal cupbearer. For a whole year the despairing mother prayed to St. George hoping to get her son back. With particular fervour she asked the saint on his feast-day, in other words on the anniversary of her son's kidnapping by the Saracens. At such a moment, the boy was giving a glass of wine to the emir. 22 J. B. Aufhauser, Miracula…, pp. 100–103. Unexpectedly St. George appeared on a white steed, caught the boy and brought him to his mother's house. All the inhabitants of Mytilene revered the saint for his miraculous rescue of the boy |
This is only one variation of the legend of St George and the boy, thoroughly covered by Grotowski here:
http://www.icon-art.info/book_contents.php?book_id=84
I'm interested though that the Aeternitas may be the oldest, showing the earlier blending of Christian and pagan iconography.
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Although Grotowski's article is about
The Legend of St. George Saving a Youth from Captivity and its Depiction in Art
it is odd that he doesn't mention (or is even aware of) the Aeternitas ones.
The BM's caption:
Icon painted with egg-tempera on gessoed linen on pine panel; background gesso worked in relief, originally silvered. Subject: St George and the youth of Mytilene. St George in armour, haloed, on white horse, moving right across rocky ground, reins in lef
© The Trustees of the British Museum |
The Ashmolean curator must have been more familiar with the youth version and not looked closely enough?
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Ishmael
In: Toronto
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| ...it is clearly based on this version of a popular tale: |
Or the tales are based on the paintings (which were not understood, or were no longer heterodox).
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Wile E. Coyote
In: Arizona
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| Hatty wrote: | | She doesn't look much like a slave, not with that armour. Why do the good people at the Ashmolean think she is Aeternitas rather than one of those feisty goddesses, say, Artemis/Diana, or even Athena/Minerva? |
Aeternitas is Artemis
mis/mes=messenger=myth
There are two sides to coins, which can represent different forms of time. The here and now side of the King/Coin and the eternal side.
Artemis= Eternal Maiden.
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