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Hatty
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Don't know quite what to make of this medievalist's tweet

Amazing. In an early-fourteenth-century Latin/Anglo-Norman devotional miscellany, a key to runes (British Library, MS Harley 4657, fol. 86v)

Would a 14th-century Anglo-Norman scribe know how to transcribe runes into Latin?
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Edgar=Bath=Aquae Sulis

Charlemagne=Aachon (aqua) IN actual fact Aquae Granus

Watery locations lead to recoronations.....

http://www.earlybritishkingdoms.com/adversaries/bios/edgar.html

Both orginal Kings Charlemagne, Edgar mysteriously used Roman Villas!!!


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Oh, goody, the BBC is publicising a test case. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-44293300

Hopes high of unearthing lost monastery in Coldingham

A team of archaeologists is hoping to unearth the remains of a lost monastery in the Scottish Borders. It was founded near the village of Coldingham by Princess Æbbe - the sister of King Oswald - nearly 1,400 years ago.

As you know, it is our contention that no church buildings could have existed at that period so, according to us, this is a case not of ‘a lost monastery’ but of a ‘never-was monastery’. The portents are completely standard:

The location has so far eluded archaeologists but a team armed with new evidence hopes to be successful.They will begin the dig in Coldingham next month and have appealed to the public to help them with their search.

Treasure Island meets Blue Peter.

Oswald is known as the King of Northumbria who founded a monastery on Lindisfarne in the 7th Century.

One of our favourites.

However, the monastery founded by his sister Æbbe - who nearby St Abbs is named after - is less well known.

Certainly to me. More anon.
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"Despite Coldingham's significance, compared to Lindisfarne, much less is known about it," said DigVentures archaeologist Brendon Wilkins."This project aims to change that and reveal Æbbe's side of the story in Scotland." They hope to do so by unearthing a location in the heart of Coldingham.

A good start. Coldingham monastery could be in Coldingham.

"Although previous attempts to locate the remains of the original monastery based on historical sources have come up largely empty handed, we're working with a new set of geophysics results that have revealed a number of possible Anglo-Saxon structures at a slightly different location," said Mr Wilkins.

If it wasn't in Coldingham it must be in Coldingham. By the way, Wilko, somebody should tell you that no Anglo-Saxon structures of any kind have ever been found at any other location, near or far, so I wouldn't be hanging your hat on this if I were you. No, wait, I see you already know this. 'Possible Anglo-Saxon structures' are extremely common and can be found practically everywhere. Phew, you had me worried there for a minute.

"Now, we just need to excavate and see if it's really there."

No, you just need to excavate to find out it isn’t there just as it wasn’t there before. But don’t worry, not finding something that doesn’t exist means you can always try again somewhere else in Coldingham next year. More anon.
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Historical sources have indicated that Æbbe's monastery burnt down soon after she died

Yes, they often do.

was abandoned for a short while

Yes, they often are.

was rebuilt and continued to thrive until AD 870

Yes, they often do.

when it was destroyed once and for all by a devastating Viking attack - just like Oswald's at Lindisfarne.

Yes, they often are. But the Vikings always remove the archaeology along with everything else. More anon.
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The team ran a small trial excavation in November and collaborated with the community to help decide where to dig during the upcoming excavation.

Archaeology by referendum. I suppose it’s a bit like those Spot the Ball competitions they used to run in the News of the World. It's always the last place you think of.

"Like Lindisfarne, Coldingham is an important site in the story of early medieval Christianity in the British Isles, and yet we know much less about it than other sites of similar significance," said Mr Wilkins.

I hate to break it to you, Willikins, but we know nothing about any of them because none of them have ever been found.

"This is a chance to redress the balance, and begin answering some big questions about Coldingham's early medieval history."

The situation will certainly be balanced.

Anne Dall, secretary for Friends of Coldingham Priory, said they were delighted by the prospect."Let's hope that the investigation reveals the hidden traces of Æbbe's lost monastery and throws more light on the history of Coldingham," she said.

I don’t want to be a wet blanket, Anne, but since no other monastery has ever been found I doubt very much this will be the first.

The project has already received some Heritage Lottery Fund support and has invited anyone interested in helping to join the excavation.

Should the AEL apply to the Heritage Lottery Fund for a grant to help stop the Heritage Lottery Fund wasting its money? We shall need the support of some relevant academics. Where’s your rolodex when you need it?
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They know exactly where to look. St Abbs monastery was named for St Abbs Head, a prominent headland on the east coast of Scotland/Northumbria and site of a famous lighthouse.

Just 0.5 km to the SE of the lighthouse is Kirk Hill. On the summit of this hill are the remains of the 7th century monastery settlement of Saint Æbbe. About AD 643 Æbbe established the monastery on Kirk Hill within the remains of a 6th-century fort known as Urbs Coludi (Colud's Fort).


Kirk Hill (centre), the site of St. Æbbe's monastery, with the tip of the Head beyond.

No actual monastic archaeology remains so they obviously led very austere lives

Both monks and nuns lived at the monastery in basic beehive huts made from mud and branches.

How do archaeologists know about the huts if there are no remains? But there is something described as a '7th century' rampart, presumably to fit in with the so-called record because it turns out to be 12th century after all

The settlement was protected by a massive three metre high turf rampart on the landward side, the remains of this rampart can be seen as a low ridge around the rim of the hill. These are the only remnants of the 7th century monastic settlement of Æbbe. However there are faint outlines of buildings, field boundaries and a rectangular burial site dating from the 12th century. These are the scant traces of a Benedictine chapel established in 1188 and dedicated to Æbbe by monks from Coldingham Priory

It's a fascinating site but not for monastic reasons. It sounds like a former tidal causewayed island could have been here

The Head itself is made from hard volcanic rock which formed as lava flowed from volcanoes around 400 million years ago. The different type of rocks accounts for the contrast in colour between the rocks of the Head and those of mainland cliffs. The softer sedimentary rocks have eroded over time, leaving behind the high headland made from the harder rock. However even this tough volcanic rock has been affected by the actions of the sea, leaving steep gullies and sea stacks which are ideal for nesting seabirds. The harder rocks of the Head are separated from the sedimentary rock to the SW by the NW slanting St Abbs Head Fault which is marked by a low lying valley which at times of higher sea level would have been flooded, cutting off the headland from the mainland.


The headland is a nature reserve with a difference

The Head was designated an NNR because of the presence of a 60,000 strong seabird colony which nest on the sheer cliffs, stacks and gullies. Kittiwakes and guillemots are the most numerous species of the nesting birds followed by razorbills, shags, herring gulls, fulmars and puffins. ... Although best known for its seabirds, the reserve also has flower rich grasslands and a freshwater loch.


The perfect haven for seabirds and summer (avian) visitors. Possibly 'twas ever thus though keeping those grasslands free of thistles requires plenty of volunteers (sheep are fenced off from the plants, or vice versa)

The grassland is surprisingly rich for a coastal situation, in some places it is possible to find over 20 different species of plant in one square metre....Just inland from the lighthouse is Mire Loch, a 600 metre long artificially created lake
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.Just inland from the lighthouse is Mire Loch, a 600 metre long artificially created lake

Now this really is up our alley. Who in their right mind would create such a formidable civil engineering project in a place of no earthly interest to man or beast (or seabird)? We must send Scottie on a recon. Only he has the conspiratorial cast of mind to even conjure with the likelihoods.
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Wile E. Coyote wrote:


Edgar=Bath=Aquae Sulis



Now what could Sulis mean.......?
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Sulis is generally taken to be súil, meaning 'eye' [cf. oeil in French]. Fair enough since so many wells and springs, usually dedicated to someone holy, are associated with the healing of eye complaints.

Minerva too was associated with Bath, so Sulis could have been a pun referring to her symbol, the owl (of wisdom).
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Eh, that has caught me out.....

I was assuming its a sol

solar word...

Solio=throne

https://bit.ly/2JbtxSW

BTW

Edgar was buried at Glastonbury = Glis stone bury

Bishop Dunstan...Dun......stan = Hill stone = Dynasty= He creates the dynasty

All these folks are not real people, the names refer to a circular dynasty, recreated as historical lineage.

Dunstan worked as a silversmith and in the scriptorium while he was living at Glastonbury. It is thought likely that he was the artist who drew the well-known image of Christ with a small kneeling monk beside him in the Glastonbury Classbook, "one of the first of a series of outline drawings which were to become a special feature of Anglo-Saxon art of this period."[4] Dunstan became famous as a musician, illuminator, and metalworker.[10]


How very shiny, glistening of him........


The anonymous author of the earliest Life places Dunstan's birth during the reign of Athelstan, while Osbern fixed it at "the first year of the reign of King Æthelstan", 924 or 925. This date, however, cannot be reconciled with other known dates of Dunstan's life and creates many obvious anachronisms. Historians therefore assume that Dunstan was born around 910 or earlier..[8]


Yep straight line thinking.
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https://bit.ly/2JbtxSW

To my way of thinking it's a box. Maybe books are boxes?

Notice St Peter is holding a key. Mary holds a cross in a away that suggests a key/book and a cross/palm are in balance?

Mary's so called palm (according to ortho) actually looks like grain/wheat to me.....
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Wile E. Coyote wrote:

Edgar=Bath=Aquae Sulis

Charlemagne=Aachon (aqua) IN actual fact Aquae Granus

Watery locations lead to recoronations.....

http://www.earlybritishkingdoms.com/adversaries/bios/edgar.html

Both orginal Kings Charlemagne, Edgar mysteriously used Roman Villas!!!


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Sun, water, grain. Sounds like a recipe for good harvests (and stability), just what is hoped for from great kings. Those golden boots, eh?
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Golden Years .......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNPe7Aai76g
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