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The Importance of Sport (NEW CONCEPTS)
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Grant



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The Harper answer is to enter into a skills contest with people who are more skilful than us. Play it from the back! All that will happen is that once again we will easily qualify for the next WC but will lose to the first good team we play
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Wile E. Coyote


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Liverpool played it out from the back in the 70s. It was thought of as a relay. Goalkeeper to defence, defence to mid field, midfield to forwards.

The pitches were not great in those days, but teams passing it out, had the advantage that if you ran into difficulty you simply passed back to the keeper as he was legally, at that time, allowed to pick it up. Of course teams would pressurise the opposition, when behind, the idea was to get a pass back to the keeper, and then mark his options, forcing him to kick up field. You hoped to regain possession from the goalie's kick.

Playing it out from the back is really about wearing the opponents out. You want the opposition to press and chase. A heavy pitch in the old days, (not a rutted one) actually helped. The skillset was and still is similar to five a side, so teams practice this endlessly.

Good teams have always passed out, it's in their interest, worse teams randomise by a long ball game, that is in their interest.
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My view is that England, when playing world class sides, are the worse team. Therefore we should adopt a Pulis type approach. Don't play it out from the back because we will probably lose it. Play to our strengths, which is that we have a surplus of very fast young players.

You're right that Liverpool did indeed play a possession game as did Nottingham Forest. But on and off we've been trying to replicate their success for fifty years. I suppose it might suddenly work, but I have no faith
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Mick Harper
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For some reason our educational system can't develop players like Mbappe or Messi. They must potentially exist but we ignore them.

Not for some reason, for an obvious reason. We are the only major footballing nation that creams off middle class pre-adolescents to play rugby.
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Children! Children! A passing game is not the same as passing it out from the back. Actually the passing game was invented by Scotland in the late nineteenth century and found its apotheosis with Hungary in the middle of the twentieth. Passing it out from the back, I reiterate until someone produces some actual evidence as opposed to saloon bar fond memories, began in the twenty-first century.
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Mick Harper
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The Bundesliga club Freiburg have been told not to stage evening games or matches between 1pm and 3pm on Sundays at their new €80m stadium, which is due to open next season, because of fears over noise. The administrative court of Baden-Württemberg has ruled Freiburg will be prevented from holding matches at key times in German football’s schedule deemed “daily rest periods” by the state authority and anxious local residents. Guardian

Or, the residents could nip in and make some racist noises and get the games played at the normal times but in an empty stadium. The proletariat has come full circle since professional football was originally designed to cater for their 'rest periods' but now must not coincide with them. Is it progress? I just don't know.
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Mick Harper
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Scousers are thick: truth or stereotype?

Ghent offered free tickets for their game against Wolfsburg to all the Liverpool fans who went there instead of Genk. BT Sport commentator
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Mick Harper wrote:
We are the only major footballing nation that creams off middle class pre-adolescents to play rugby.

That would be the case if 'football intelligence' is a learned skill. Are rugby players judged to be more intelligent?
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Wile E. Coyote


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Mick Harper wrote:
We are the only major footballing nation that creams off middle class pre-adolescents to play rugby.


Nope we just stopped middle class pre-adolescents playing football.
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Mick Harper
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No, the theory derives from the fact that middle class children are inherently more intelligent than the lower orders and is the basis for the widely held belief that rugby is a game for ruffians played by gentlemen and football is a game for gentlemen played by ruffians.
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Wile E. Coyote


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We need to get modern plastic pitches banned on environmental grounds so we can get back to playing on mud.
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Mick Harper
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There was a widely held belief that children playing on rubbish-strewn tarmac with balls made of munched up newspaper i.e. pre-war Glasgow tenements, produced fitb'lers with unparalleled ball skills. The occasional tricky winger, they meant. Of course all African children play on mud and where has that got them? The occasional sulky midfield maestro.
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Let's consider this Sokratis penalty against Zaha. Now you're entitled to plant your left leg anywhere you like and that includes blocking off Zaha moving past you on your left. That, it seems to me, is not the same as either tripping Zaha or even obstructing him. If Zaha chooses to ignore a foreign body (in this case, a leg) standing in his way, that's his problem. Or should be.

I accept it's split-second but, with VAR, it is at last possible to sort out this very common situation which almost always at present goes to the attacker because he invariably finishes on the floor with the defender standing over him with upraised arms. But only if 'stand your ground' is recognised as a defence. There is a visible difference between a dribble and pushing it past and hoping for a clatter.
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Nutmegging the goalie is not 'an excellent finish', it is a rubbish finish because it is not humanly possible to do it with the degree of precision that a one-on-one situation demands. Yet another example of the 'judging by results' heresy.
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Have you ever seen a striker nutmeg a goalie, in the true sense, ie passed it through his legs, to then run round the goalkeeper and score?

Wiley hasn't.
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