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DPCrisp


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Brian: My daughter is studying psychology
Mick: PS Obviously, Brian, you cannot tell your daughter about any of this if you want her to get a two-one or better.

No, tell her!. Then she'll cleave more steadfastly to the orthodox position and a good exam result will be a breeze. I betcha. (But if I'm wrong, I can not be held responsible: a kid who pays attention and is disillusioned by what her dad says is completely unforeseeable.)
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Mick Harper
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Yes, the moment when human beings switch their authority figures from home to outside-home is a critical and completely ignored moment in the development of everything.*

Could you indicate, Mr Crisp, how old your own children are. And use any colour ink so long as it's black.

* Only AE-ists take the next step.
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Mick wrote:
Could you indicate, Mr Crisp, how old your own children are.

Er... yes, but being something of an aside here, praps I should post in a "greyed-out" color... One is 26, too bright for his own good, dyslexia/dyspraxia, poor exam results and a pretty rigorously orthodox/scientific outlook. The other is 20, Arse-burger, average exam results, gave up on going to university to do music coz they were tossers. His girlfriend is studying psychology and has a pretty rigorously orthodox/scientific outlook. There's a Varsity Blues thread for this, in'ere?

And use any colour ink so long as it's black.

There's a Great Minds thread for visual incapacities, in'ere?
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Boreades


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This talk of DNA and memory reminds me (sic) that there are a couple of Elephants-In-The-Corner of neurology.

One EITC is the distinction between the brain and the mind. Most medically-trained neurology folks are bound to the notion that it has to be physical to be real. So you can open it up and look at it, or cut it out, if you are a surgeon. So for them it's got to be all in the brain, otherwise it's not real.

The other EITC is the location of the mind and the memory. Despite all efforts to pin down a location in the physical brain, they both prove to be elusive buggers. Some heretic neuros go so far as to suggest that the mind and the memory are not in the brain at all, just coupled to the brain as a tuned circuit, or a human information processing hub/router.

See also [url=http://www.sheldrake.org/homepage.html ]Morphic Resonance[/url] and the Holographic Universe

We can easily project analogies and similarities betwen the Human Information Processing System and IT systems. Detractors would call that a kind of anthropomorphism, but that would neatly ignore the reality that humans have naturally designed IT systems "in our own image".
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Boreades


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For a bit of "proper science" on the subject, see Quantum Consciousness - how organic molecules and neurons can perform quantum tunnelling and act as message carriers.

http://www.quantumconsciousness.org/penrose-hameroff/quantumcomputation.html
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Mick Harper
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My own position is that 'the brain' is the enemy. It just wants to be left alone to do what comes naturally to it, which is to to learn rapidly from authority but in incremental steps via synapses into long but interconnected networks. If its owner does anything foolish, like read something that is so revisonist it would mean ripping out a whole bunch of synapses, and make whole networks useless, the brain makes him (rather rarely, her) highly uneasy. In fact the owner will often prefer to be burnt at the stake (along with the brain) rather than change his brain radically.

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Boreades


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By the way, I forget to mention, you're all wasting your time thinking of DNA as some kind of data store that contains a boot program for the next generation.

The hardware is not the software.

Start looking at it as part of a tuned circuit that can be (and is) modified by our own actions.
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Boreades


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It looks like this is just starting to slip into the mainstream. See for example today's BBC Science article on Quantum Biology.
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Boreades


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From the lack of response, I conclude that AEL folk have no understanding or interest in how their own minds work.
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Mick Harper
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You haven't said anything yet so it's difficult to respond. At least that's how my mind works.
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Boreades


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From the lack of any further response, AEL folk might be shy of asking Harpo how his mind works, or maybe they are too frightened to, or maybe just not interested.

Meanwhile, today, political pundits are wondering how Jeremy Corbyn's mind works. But he has upset a few PC apple carts.

Jeremy Corbyn gaffed at the launch of LGBT History Month, telling the audience that he stands with people who “chose to be gay” or “chose to be lesbian”.


I'm surprised to be in agreement with Jeremy. In that, it is a choice, often rationalised away as not-a-choice, or not a conscious choice. How will the LGBT Intelligentsia handle this? Probably with a large dose of Cognitive Dissonance. As in, it's difficult to keep protesting as an entitled victim if you accept you chose to be that way.

Personally, I don't mind, I'd quite like to be a lesbian.
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Mick Harper
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AEL folk might be shy of asking Harpo how his mind works, or maybe they are too frightened to

This is certainly true of me.

I'm surprised to be in agreement with Jeremy. In that, it is a choice, often rationalised away as not-a-choice, or not a conscious choice. How will the LGBT Intelligentsia handle this? Probably with a large dose of Cognitive Dissonance. As in, it's difficult to keep protesting as an entitled victim if you accept you chose to be that way.

Political correctness does not mean incorrectness.

Personally, I don't mind, I'd quite like to be a lesbian.

Since you would in fact be violently opposed to any change in your current orthodox sexual status demonstrates with fair conclusiveness the wrongness of your and Mr Corbyn's position. This is not to say one can't choose to some extent at the margins.
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N R Scott


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Boreades wrote:
Jeremy Corbyn gaffed at the launch of LGBT History Month, telling the audience that he stands with people who “chose to be gay” or “chose to be lesbian”.


The whole LGBT thing is an absolute minefield. I work with someone who is transgender - born male, but now post-op female. I've found it very hard to get into the habit of calling her her rather than him.

She also gets genuinely upset when customers misgender her. It's very hard to watch. She's a perfectly nice person, but I doubt she'll ever be happy. She can simply never be truly female - of course, I could never actually say this out loud at work.

I have big, big reservations about what our culture and medical professionals are doing to these young people (she's in her mid to late twenties). Also I noticed quite early on that she had very autistic tendencies. Something I found odd as I normally associate autism with males. I would've thought someone wanting to be a girl would have a more girly (or gay) personality, but quite the opposite. She spends most of her time outside work playing computer games.

Then a few weeks ago I came across this article.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/12/children-believe-transgender-could-have-autism-says-controversial/

I've since discovered that the transgender person I work with is officially diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome. It seems crazy to me that medical professionals would sanction and acquiesce with a full gender reassignment for a person who already clearly has problems when it comes to relating emotionally to other people.

Looking at the above article it would seem that this is a common occurrence though.
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Mick Harper
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A distinction must be drawn, I suppose, between permitting something and encouraging it. It is clear that 'permitting' something requires a degree of social approval, however tacit, but unfortunately in the drive to get some new phenomenon accepted/approved its supporters become encouragers, even proselytisers. It may be a necessary stage but it's still a nuisance.

Your experiences, Scottie, are mine too. To a tee.
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Boreades


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Mick Harper wrote:
Since you would in fact be violently opposed to any change in your current orthodox sexual status demonstrates with fair conclusiveness the wrongness of your and Mr Corbyn's position. This is not to say one can't choose to some extent at the margins.


Sexual status out here in the sticks might be a bit different from you townies. One of our local lads clearly thought so. If it wasn't for the pesky train travellers going past the field he was in, he might have got away with it. One of them had the indecency to video the indecent things he was doing to one of the local sheep. He's appearing before the local magistrate next month.

I'm tempted to ask how you know so much about my current sexual status and how orthodox it is. Have you been watching? But if you like to get paid for watching porn, along with a gold-plated Civil Service pension, now's your chance.

The Digital Economy Bill will force all websites that display porn to age verify their users – forcing any Brit wanting to look at risqué websites to enter their personal details into a government-backed plugin. Not only could this open UK internet users up to state-sponsored hacking and Ashley Maddison style leaks, in practice it means the government is going to have to hire a load of bureaucrats to check whether a website contains porn or not.
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