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Do you believe in astrology? (Astrophysics)
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Get your free chart here and tell us what you think...

http://www.alabe.com/freechart/
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ASTRO QUIZ:

I wrote this to try to illustrate the link between astrology and physical appearance...

Can you guess which zodiac sign each celebrity was born under?
~ without looking at their dates of birth ~

a reminder of the signs:

Aries the RAM
Taurus the BULL
Gemini the TWINS
Cancer the CRAB
Leo the LION
Virgo the VIRGIN
Libra the SCALES
Scorpio you guessed it
Sagittarius the ARCHER
Capricorn the SEA-GOAT
Aquarius the WATER BEARER
Pisces the FISH(S)

then check the answers below...

the RAM

the BULL

the TWINS

the CRAB

the LION

the VIRGIN

the SCALES

the SCORPION

the ARCHER

the SEA-GOAT

the WATER BEARER

the FISH(S)




ANSWER: they're all in order

Now tell us how many you got right and/or what you think of this...
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N R Scott


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I guessed that Noel Edmonds was a Sea-Goat.

Actually, come to think of it what is a Sea-Goat?

Wikipedia Says;

Capricorn is sometimes depicted as a sea-goat, and sometimes as a terrestrial goat. The reasons for this are unknown, but the image of a sea-goat goes back at least to Babylonian times.

And;

"The symbol of the goat rising from the body of a fish represents with greatest propriety the mountainous buildings of Babylon rising out of its low and marshy situation; the two horns of the goat being emblematic of the two towns, Nineveh and Babylon, the former built on the Tigris, the latter on the Euphrates; but both subjected to one sovereignty."


The only ancient depiction a quick Google Image search threw up was, coincidentally, a coin.



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The symbol of the goat rising from the body of a fish represents with greatest propriety the mountainous buildings of Babylon rising out of its low and marshy situation; the two horns of the goat being emblematic of the two towns, Nineveh and Babylon, the former built on the Tigris, the latter on the Euphrates; but both subjected to one sovereignty.

I am prepared to bet that that this explanation was entirely dreamt up by a modern academic and has absolutely no reality in any contemporaneous account. Clues: the weird phrase "with greatest propriety" and the overall tone of sublime certainty. Not to mention the wild unlikelihood of Babylon being both the goat and its own horn.

I shall speak more on these 'verbal clues' in the current Vercingetorix controversy in Matters Arising.
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According to the International Astronomy Union:

http://www.iau.org/static/public/constellations/gif/CAP.gif
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Correct Mick.

Wiki's reference for this quote is; Cole, John. A Treatise on the Circular Zodiac of Tentyra, in Egypt (1824).
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But note how the Chinese Whisper might go from there. Any book that cited an 1824 source -- and about Egypt for Chrissake -- would be given short shrift. I am very surprised this has reached Wiki. What would normally happen is that a modern Mesopotamian specialist would use the quote, entirely properly cited and hedged around with the all necesary caveats, and then this source would be cited by everybody else. But of course now without the original identification or the caveats, just a bare bibliographical citation pointing to a Mesopotamian specialist armed with the latest scholarship.

This is often how academia works: the road to hell is paved with scrupulous adherence to the rules. But that is how AE operates, the academics have done all the work for us, we just walk backwards along the road already laid out for us. But of course you have to be able to sniff out the right road, from the infinite network.
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I've just updated some examples,

Are they more convincing this time round?
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Mick Harper
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Steve, we're a very broad church but you are (I think I speak for all) trying our patience.
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You're the one who was testing mine yesterday when you claimed there weren't 30 or so coins from the Pionsat treasury. Fact that you ignored...
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Here's the only reference I can find to your complaint

'27 known coins of Vercingetorix among 16 are from the Tresor de Pionsat'...
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tr%C3%A9sor_de_Pionsat
Wile E. Coyote wrote:
This link is conclusive. Vertie vas a master of disguise. See coins 1 and 3.
http://www.romancoins.info/VIC-Historical1.html

The one on Ceasar - LOL

I do not see that it requires a reponse from me but if it does you'll have to explain what it is. But this is not the same as somebody trying to launch a discussion on astrology in a venue where nobody believes in it. Especially as so many coloured photos plays havoc with our MB count.
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While Chad (or anybody else) is struggling manfully with this let us turn to the other oddity. Cast your mind back forty-eight hours ago before you knew anything about Vercingetorix coins. Somebody comes up to you in the street and says, "Using your knoweldge of numismatics, Iron Age Europe, archaeology, and any other relevant fields of study, estimate how many coins there might be in the world bearing the name 'Vercingetorix'."

Clearly the answer is, "None, I would imagine."
"Any other estimates?"
"One? Standing proudly in the Bibliotheque Nationale?"
"What about thirty?"
"Blimey O'Reilly, that would surprise me."

So now comment on "There are less than thirty known staters that bear the Vercingetorix name."


You ignored how many there actually were, added to the first one...

And then you say that the inscriptions could not have been Gaulish because Celtic languages were not written ones...

but coin carvings are a natural exception...

Then I told you about the laurels...

All you have left is:

the French are a bunch of patriots, therefor this justifies why they forged the coins during the 19th century...

Your skepticism goes too far...
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Ishmael


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Steven. You should listen a long long time before speaking again. I say this for your own good.
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31% of Americans believe in astrology...

They're not all absolutely moronic, are they?
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Steven, Applied Episteology says that a hundred per cent of everyone is moronic, that's the entire point.
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