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Hatty
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| ie when the 'Iron Age' is supposed to have begun. |
Exactly right. 'Round about the eighth century' the Kaledei or Culdees 'replaced Columban monks' and formed communities of hermits, or anchorites, according to ecclesiastical historians. But they were also active missionaries!
It sounds like these communities flourished best in Scotland, at least they were around considerably longer than in England and Wales where orders like the Cistercians seem to have ousted them.
[Anchorite is supposed to be a Greek word and applies to 'desert hermits'. It seems a fitting term for a 'seashore hermit' though, even perhaps a 'tidal island hermit']
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Boreades
In: finity and beyond
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Yes, but what about Caldey Island?
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Mick Harper
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In: London
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All right, let's start with this cheerful bit of bollocks from Wiki
| The name Caldey (sometimes also spelled "Caldy") is derived from that given to it by the Vikings, that is to say: kald ey, the "cold island".[4][6] In Welsh the island is known as Ynys BÅ·r, after Saint Pyr, an early abbot of the sixth century.[7] |
Yeah, it's really cold, tucked in behind the headland [map please]. The perpetual notion that -ey is Viking for island is absurd. Unless the Vikings conquered Jersey, Guernsey, Alderney and all the -eys in the Thames Valley. Actually they did conquer the Thames Valley but you know what I mean. Though Thames Valley is itself Viking for the Island of Thamesvall.
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Hatty
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In: Berkshire
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Caldey Island is near the mouth of the Bristol Channel about half a mile offshore from Tenby. It is exactly north of Lundy Island. Perhaps it belongs to the 'Preseli Triangle'.
In the middle of the island is a duck pond and St Illtud's Church. Illtud is a sixth-century saint, venerated in Wales and Brittany. No mention of Illtud before the eleventh century though so the usual hiatus.
You can tell it adds up to a load of horsehair from Wiki...at least they add "believed to be" but this fabled Cor Twedws might be important if this is in fact a Tudor forgery.
| St. Illtud (also spelled Illtyd, Eltut, and, in Latin, Hildutus), also known as Illtud Farchog "Illtud the Knight", is venerated as the founder-abbot and teacher of the divinity school known as Cor Tewdws, located in Llanilltud Fawr (Llantwit Major) in the Welsh county of Glamorgan. He founded the monastery and college in the 6th century, and the school is believed to be Britain’s earliest centre of learning.[1] At its height, it had over 1000 pupils and schooled many of the great saints of the age, including Saint Patrick of Ireland, Saint David of Wales, Gildas the Historian, and Samson of Dol. |
Clearly someone has been at pains to fill the gap.
| St. Illtud was popular among the very ancient Celts, but there are few dependable sources about his life story.[3] The earliest mention of St. Illtud is in the Vita Sancti Sampsonis, written in Dol, Brittany, about 600 AD. According to this account, Illtud was the disciple of Bishop Germanus of Auxerre in north-central France. According to the St. Sampson biography, Illtud was the most accomplished of all the Britons, and was well versed in the scriptures of the Old and New Testaments, as well as every type of philosophy, including geometry, rhetoric, grammar, and arithmetic.[4] He was also "gifted with the power of foretelling future events". It appears that he was an educated Briton living shortly after Rome's departure from the West. |
Wiki says that Illtud, according to a Norman Life (Norman?), was a "Breton prince and cousin of King Arthur" so heavily involved in the metal business.
All that can be gleaned is that this Illtud character was a hermit in the Vale of Glamorgan.
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| Boreades wrote: |
"Much to the dismay of the Vatican, an approx. 1500-2000 year old bible was found in Turkey, in the Ethnography Museum of Ankara. Discovered and kept secret in the year 2000, the book contains the Gospel of Barnabas -- a disciple of Christ -- which shows that Jesus was not crucified, nor was he the son of God, but a Prophet. The book also calls Apostle Paul "The Impostor". The book also claims that Jesus ascended to heaven alive, and that Judas Iscariot was crucified in his place. |
This is disputed as a hoax, on two counts: Barnabas NOT a disciple and his 'Gospel' NOT in this Syriac Bible.
http://countercurrentnews.com/2014/05/hoax-gospel-goes-viral/#
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Mick Harper
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Our old friend Ramsey Island comes into the Davidian picture. Ramsey is a Megalithic name (Borry will tell us about the Masonic implications) but the island's main claim to fame is that it is the extreme south-western point of Wales. These 'furthest points' always turn out to be Megalithic (though in truth we have not really worked out why).
On the east side of Ramsey Island, facing the mainland south of St David’s, was a chapel dedicated to St Justinian, across the narrow but treacherous Ramsey Sound, close to a spring at a landing place. We are told that Justinian came from Brittany and joined other hermits on Ramsey Island.
Porth Stinan was the embarkation point for pilgrims to visit Ramsey Island. | |
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...and Bardsey Island, off the Llyn Peninsula, North West Wales: St. Cadfan.. He built a monastery there in 516 AD.
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Ishmael
In: Toronto
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| Mick Harper wrote: | | These 'furthest points' always turn out to be Megalithic (though in truth we have not really worked out why). |
I thought it taken as given that the farthest point west is of practical use for trans-Atlantic voyages. It is no coincidence again that a line traced from St. John NB through St. John's Newfoundland terminates in Terra Finis.
Just have to work out what angle the sun is from that European latitude to prove my complete case. Why am I so lazy???
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Mick Harper
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| ...and Bardsey Island, off the Llyn Peninsula, North West Wales: St. Cadfan.. He built a monastery there in 516 AD |
Well, yes, Bardsey is the furthest north-west equivalent to Ramsey in the south-west (map to follow) and thus, according to us, a Megalithic island. But we need some other connection between the two islands. What do you have?
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Hatty
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In: Berkshire
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| the island's main claim to fame is that it is the extreme south-western point of Wales. |
If Ramsey Island is the most southwesterly, Ramsgate is the most southeasterly point.
The spelling varied but not greatly according to Wiki
| The earliest reference to the town is in the Kent Hundred Rolls of 1274-5 both as Remmesgate .... and Remisgat (with reference to the town). The names Ramisgate and Raunsgate appear in the parish of St. Laurence records circa 1290.[4][5] These are all derived from late Anglo-Saxon ‘Hremmes’ from earlier ‘Hræfnes’ (raven’s) and ‘geat’ (gate), with reference to the gap in the cliffs.[6] In 1357 the area became known as Ramesgate. |
Remmesgate/Ramesgate was on the Stonehenge-Goseck 'line' as we've already noted. The Ram- link seems to be Hermes spelt 'wrong'.
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Mick Harper
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| If Ramsey Island is the most southwesterly, Ramsgate is the most southeasterly point. |
Good spot. All hands to uncovering any other synchronicities.
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Chad
In: Ramsbottom
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Where does that leave Ramsbottom?
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Mick Harper
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In: London
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We're dealing with real places, Chad, not northern stereotypes you made up.
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| Well, yes, Bardsey is the furthest north-west equivalent to Ramsey in the south-west (map to follow) and thus, according to us, a Megalithic island. But we need some other connection between the two islands. What do you have? |
How about: Ramsey Island is referred to as Ynis Dewi in Welsh; it was the home of his confessor, St Justinian. Bardsey Island was thought to have been settled by Culdee monks by 516 AD and St David retired and was buried there, according to Rev. P. B. Williams of Llanrug. Others on Williams' list include St Cadvan who reputedly came from Armorica/Brittany/Llydaw.
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Mick Harper
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In: London
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So, you have no connections. David (Dewi) is too general in Wales to provide a significant link. A minor blow.
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