Matters Arising (The History of Britain Revealed)

[Mick Harper]

On the contrary, the place is best remembered for Blind Jack of Knaresborough who invented roads.

[nemesis8]

[Pulp History]

The Romans called it Dubris (or Duvris) presumably from the current name of the place. The only similar word in Anglo Saxon is Dufan which means to 'dive' or 'drown' - could be memories of the flooding of the English Channel?
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[Pulp History]

The university of Wales give their 'proto-celtic' word 'Dubro' to mean water, without giving any clue as to where that comes from.

The examples they give are Dubro = Water, Dubro-Jara = Water Hen, and Dubro-Kwon = Otter.

It seems to me that all of these words are more easily explained if the Dubro root is interpreted closer to the Anglo Saxon meaning of 'to dive'. Seems again that the word could easily have travelled the other way just as easily.
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[Boreades]

[Mick Harper]

Unless you're ravenous of course. The etymology of which is the usual risible rubbish viz

[Hatty]

Dover (and by extension Salisbury) is connected to Cologne/Coln via pigeons. Or Ursula Minor if you prefer great circle routes, via Dunkirk and Gent.

Cologne cathedral is the finest Gothic structure in Europe, even the philistine RAF let it be.

[Hatty]

Pardonnez-moi. The Flemish landing point on the Dover-Coln route is Koksijdge, just east of Dunkirk and site of Dunes Abbey (from where the Cistercian monks relocated to Bruges in the seventeenth century).

[Mick Harper]

Oh no, trouble at t' language mill:

http://www.newsinenglish.no/2012/11/27/english-is-a-scandinavian-language/

So a bunch of gen-u-wine academics have proved linguistically that English doesn't come from Anglo-Saxon. Of course they're a bunch of Scandischmucks so the Anglo-American rulers of the academic universe won't actually notice. Still it's the straw in the wind that will eventually break the camel's back.

[Boreades]

[Wile E. Coyote]

Here is the original article with examples.


http://www.apollon.uio.no/english/articles/2012/4-english-scandinavian.html

[Boreades]

[Mick Harper]

Actually this gives the lie to all notions of creolisation that orthodoxy relies on, eg Anglo-Saxon incorporating swathes of Norman French. Once a language moves even a small way (say, Spanish ... French) it is impossible for either group to understand the other. And two language groups form eg English and Urdu in Birmingham today (or Karachi for that matter). It makes no difference how related the two languages are.

One group may learn the language of the other but there is no melding of the languages. A few loan words glide effortlessly between the two in the ordinary way of any two side-by-side languages, but that is all.

[Boreades]

In that case, can't we claim Old Norwegian is based on Old English? And that New Norwegian has changed more than New English?

[Boreades]

Or that Old Norwegian and Old English are both based on Old-Something-Else-Probably-Underwater?