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Mick Harper wrote:
Three if he's a Lombard.

Wiki says three golden balls are the traditional sign for a pawnbroker's

The pawnbrokers' symbol is three spheres suspended from a bar. The three sphere symbol is attributed to the Medici family of Florence, Italy, owing to its symbolic meaning of Lombard. This refers to the Italian region of Lombardy, where pawn shop banking originated under the name of Lombard banking.



Three bags full?

The account of the Medici golden balls symbol is very reminiscent of Megalithic-style lore, a giant killed with three bags of rocks back in the days of Charlemagne.

The legend claims that a Medici hired Charlemagne to slay a giant using three bags of rocks. From that day forward, the Medici crest used the three balls. Other families adopted the use of the three balls because of the financial success of the Medici family. The gold balls were used throughout the Middle Ages on crests as a symbol of success.

There are several resonances with Hermes (Thrice-great), patron saint of trade, trickery and travel, not to mention banking. We covered the pawnshop association when discussing holding animals 'in hock' and demanding payment for the guide, as in 'Penny for the guy' or ferryman.

There's also the Hermes link to weasel/stoat/ermine. The "Pop goes the weasel!" song refers to pawning one's coat ('weasel and stoat' in rhyming slang). Folklorists say the three golden balls refer to a story about St Nicholas, patron saint of chimneys, pawnbrokers and stockings, who gave a bag of gold each to three young girls so they could afford to get married.
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And who else gave bags of gold to young girls?
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Hatty wrote:
Wiki says three golden balls are the traditional sign for a pawnbroker's

There's also the Hermes link to weasel/stoat/ermine. The "Pop goes the weasel!" song refers to pawning one's coat ('weasel and stoat' in rhyming slang). Folklorists say the three golden balls refer to a story about St Nicholas, patron saint of chimneys, pawnbrokers and stockings, who gave a bag of gold each to three young girls so they could afford to get married.




As Wiley needs to look for a symbols on a coin not folklore. My starting point is a Jewish coin. The three pomegranates. The cycle is Suffering Death Resurrection.....You are short of cash,You pawn for credit, You buy back.
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The three pomegranates. The cycle is Suffering Death Resurrection.....You are short of cash, You pawn for credit, You buy back.

The golden balls sign is a mirror image of the three pomegranates which, unlike the three balls, point upwards. The three golden balls could be seen as a negative symbol but would any business wish to be associated with negativity? There is a story in Greek mythology about Persephone eating pomegranate seeds in the underworld but nevertheless managing to escape, at a price. Not so different from paying a toll or a guide.
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They are labelled on the coin description as pomegranates but maybe they are opium poppy heads?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium
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Why would opium poppies feature on a coin? Katherine of Aragon displayed a crowned pomegranate on her crest, apparently as a symbol of power and, err, fertility. It's not clear whether her badge was a personal ornament or had established Aragonese roots but since her role was to produce a male heir it's likely the pomegranate was a recognised fertility symbol.

I was wondering about the French fleur de lys symbol which might have evolved from three golden balls or be an offshoot as it were of pomegranates.
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