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Dating Shakespeare (NEW CONCEPTS)
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Ishmael


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Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Shakespeare was/is a cult invented by David Garrick.


Now this is exciting! Is this your idea? Tell us more!!!!

My noble epistomogie, tis enough said,
The bard was never alive, so never dead.


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Ishmael


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Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Same goes with Caesar....(but not invented by Garrick)


So who invented Caesar? And When?
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Ishmael


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My current thesis concerning the writing of Shakespeare is even more radical.

Have a look at where Shakespeare is arguably even more popular than he is in the UK.

And then have a look at where Sheakespeare was first published.
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Boreades


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Ishmael wrote:
when you have the entire Bible to search through, a coincidence of this nature (especially when it might have involved any historical personage) is almost certain to arise, is it not?


Perhaps it is, if one subscribes to the Infinite Monkey Theorem.

If, however, one subscribes to the view that these famous works were very carefully constructed, it does seem much less certain.
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Wile E. Coyote


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Ishmael wrote:
Wile E. Coyote wrote:
Same goes with Caesar....(but not invented by Garrick)


So who invented Caesar? And When?


Caesar was largely reinvented by Christian historians, there was widespread destruction and forgery, it's more a question of understanding why than who. A more subtle process of reworking continues today with the imposition, via inference, of new facts and dates around a single linear chronology.
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Mick Harper
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A new book is out on the Garrick angle, What Blest Genius? The Jubilee That Made Shakespeare by Andrew Stott (WW Norton £16.99). I'll give some snippets from the Guardian review

When did Shakespeare become Shakespeare, the bard of Avon and the national poet? One possible answer is in 1741, when his statue was put up in Poets’ Corner in Westminster Abbey. Another is September 1769, when the most famous actor of his age, David Garrick, decided to hold a Shakespeare jubilee.

As Andrew Stott shows in his highly entertaining book, Garrick organised this event in Stratford-upon-Avon to celebrate Shakespeare. The jubilee was intended to link Garrick’s fame for ever to that of Shakespeare, and to cement Shakespeare’s position as the great English poet, who wrote with a freedom and naturalness that instantly set him apart from the staid regularity of French drama.

Garrick’s Shakespeare prepared the way for Romantic Shakespeare, the man of high feeling and noble sentiments, the master of imagination, the poet whose human wisdom surpassed that of all other dramatists
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Full review here https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/may/04/what-blest-genius-andrew-mcconnell-stott-this-is-shakespeare-emma-smith-review
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Wile E. Coyote


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Mick Harper wrote:
A new book is out on the Garrick angle,


review wrote:
When did Shakespeare become Shakespeare, the bard of Avon and the national poet? One possible answer is in 1741, when his statue was put up in Poets’ Corner in Westminster Abbey.


Correct, Shakespeare was not buried in poets corner, in fact few noticed his passing, the exact date of Shakespeare's death is not known but assumed from a record of his burial two days later, 25 April 1616, at Holy Trinity Church, Stratford Upon Avon, where his grave remains. The cause of death, much speculation, again unknown.
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