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Mick Harper
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Not when reporting a conspiracy. Then one is more than enough.
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Ishmael


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Grant wrote:
...he had to explain to Putin that no matter what tricks the state department uses to drag the US into war with Russia over Syria...

What I don't understand is why there is so much deep state interest in getting the US involved in Syria!?
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Mick Harper
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Antisemitism in the Labour Party has reached a new high/low. Channel 4 News doorstepped an NEC member who had been outed by the Jewish Chronicle for being a loud mouth anti-semite and had recordings to prove it. The tapes were played, we listened eagerly. The man was heard complaining that many Jewish Labour supporters --- including seventy rabbis no less -- were Trump supporters.

The brute beast.
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Ishmael wrote:
Grant wrote:
...he had to explain to Putin that no matter what tricks the state department uses to drag the US into war with Russia over Syria...

What I don't understand is why there is so much deep state interest in getting the US involved in Syria!?


Because the Great Game is still being played. Just with a slight reshuffling of the teams, with the USA coming off the subs bench in extra time.
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I'm almost inclined to feel sorry for Boris Johnson. There he was, making a fairly bland speech. He even called for the burka not to be banned. So he gets flack for supporting tolerance while making a fairly bad joke.

It's not like we're in those reactionary intolerant EU countries that have banned it. Like France, Spain, Holland, Belgium, Austria, Switzerland, Italy, etc.

Calls for tolerance remind me of the situation in Australia. Where intolerance is not tolerated.

I am truly perplexed that so many of my friends are against another mosque being built in Australia . I think it should be the goal of every Aussie to be tolerant regardless of their religious beliefs. Thus the mosque should be allowed, in an effort to promote tolerance. That is why I also propose that two nightclubs be opened either side of the mosque, thereby promoting tolerance from within the mosque. We could call one of the clubs, which would be gay, "The Turban Cowboy ", and the other a topless bar called "You Mecca Me Hot." Next door should be a butcher shop that specializes in pork, and adjacent to that an open-pit barbecue pork restaurant, called " Iraq o' Ribs." Across the street there could be a lingerie store called " Victoria Keeps Nothing Secret ", with sexy mannequins in the window modelling the goods. Next door to the lingerie shop there would be room for an adult sex toy shop, "Koranal Knowledge ", its name in flashing neon lights, and on the other side a liquor store called "Morehammered." All of this would encourage Muslims to demonstrate the tolerance they demand of us, so their mosque issue would not be a problem for others." Yes we should promote tolerance...............
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Hatty
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By rights Johnson should have all the feminists applauding but of course they won't as Labour needs Muslim voters.
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Wile E. Coyote


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Of course the burka according to its supporters protects modesty and keeps women safe, it's about tradition and what is to its supporters common sense.

The court cases that seek to overturn the face veil bans have become farcical, as have the court decisions to uphold the bans.

European Court of Human Rights wrote:
"The court found that the concern to ensure respect for the minimum guarantees of life in society could be regarded as an element of the 'protection of the rights and freedoms of others' and that the ban was justifiable in principle, solely to the extent that it sought to guarantee the conditions of 'living together'."


They might as well ban all Sikhs wearing turbans.

As always the courts have sought to give additional protection to companies who are entitled to impose neutral dress codes on their employees without facing the charge of direct discrimnation, so you get more dress continuity among McDonalds workers than school children. Coz selling burgers is important.

Have a nice day....and may your gods go with you.
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Dr Taj Hargey, Imam, of the Oxford Islamic Congregation, has joined the debate. In very traditional style, with a letter to the editor of The Times.

Sir, Boris Johnson should not apologise for telling the truth. His evocative analogy is unfortunate but he is justified in reminding everyone that the Wahhabi/Salafi-inspired fad of female facial masking has no Koranic legitimacy. It is, however, a nefarious component of a trendy gateway theology for religious extremism and militant Islam.

The burka and niqab are hideous tribal ninja-like garments that are pre-Islamic, non-Koranic and therefore un-Muslim. Although this deliberate identity-concealing contraption is banned at the Kaaba in Mecca it is permitted in Britain, thus precipitating security risks, accelerating vitamin D deficiency, endorsing gender-inequality and inhibiting community cohesion.

The retrogressive Islamic clergy has succeeded in persuading ill-informed Muslims through suspect secondary sources that God wants women to cover their faces, when in reality it is a toxic patriarchy controlling women. Is it any wonder that many younger women have internalised this poisonous chauvinism by asserting that it is their human right to hide their faces? Johnson did not go far enough. If Britain is to become a fully integrated society then it is incumbent that cultural practices, personal preferences and communal customs that aggravate social division should be firmly resisted. For this reason Britain must emulate France, Belgium, Austria, Bulgaria and Denmark in banning the burka.


Is it a courageously sensible and tolerant response? Or will it fan the flames? Or will it get lost in all the noise?
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#1 son has just told me The Grauniad got there first!

Nine uses for a burqa … that don't involve bashing them.
By Remona Aly

But the next time you spot an unidentifiable woman who wants to pop out in pyjamas to buy milk by stealth, do not be alarmed: keep calm, think of Nigella Lawson and follow our top tips on how you could use a burqa too.
1. Getaway costume

It might be less aerodynamic than a balaclava, but people will assume you're a fundamentalist, rather than a bank robber. Radically safer.
2. Fire blanket for Guy Fawkes event

Who said the burqa was a security hazard? Your burqa can double up as a safety blanket should anyone catch alight. If there's no time to remove your burqa, fling yourself upon aforesaid pyro-victim. Remember – drop and roll.
3. Court disguise

Feeling bored and fancy stirring up some media furore? Just turn up in a burqa at a random trial, pretend you're the witness and befuddle the judge and jury. If you're a man and your voice might be a giveaway, remember it's one wink for no, two winks for yes.
4. Guess Who? The Burqa Edition

Create your own line of the Guess Who? game, using real-life participants in a burqa identity parade made up of your mates. (Please note: burqas not included.)
5. Superhero outfit

The one-piece burqa is ideal for the masked hero in you. Style yourself on the Burka Avenger or be the new Muslim Batman, burqamobile at the ready. Don't worry, it comes in black.
6. Internet dating profile pic

Looking for someone to love you for who you are rather than what you look like? Don a burqa for your profile image and find a meaningful relationship with someone who agrees that looks are irrelevant. Avoid spaghetti dates.
7. Relaunch the postbox

Since the burqa eye-opening has been called a letterbox slit, and with the privatisation of the Royal Mail, seize the moment to set up an independent mobile mail service, AKA The Burqa Post.
8. Flashmob

Feel the need to improve burqa PR? Why not organise a burqa flashmob and surprise onlookers while cartwheeling through Leicester Square. Being shy won't be an issue, all will be incognito.
9. The Burqative

Star in a film about a fugitive in a burqa, inspired by real-life events. Tommy Lee Jones could reprise his famous line with a new twist: "Search every mosque house, doghouse, outhouse, curry house, Asda in that area. Your fugitive's name is Mo Hamed Ahmed Mohamed Mohammed. Go get him/her!"


But strangely it now has amnesia.
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Hatty
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Boreades wrote:
Is it a courageously sensible and tolerant response? Or will it fan the flames?

The burka is un-Islamic? Isn't he realy taking the opportunity to go in for some Wahhabi-bashing? I'm not sure whether he's correct since he gives no examples, eg. whether Muslim women in, say, Assad's Syria are forced to wear this 'component of a trendy gateway theology'.

Boris Johnson's article didn't call for a ban and avoids calling out this or that sect without preaching and with humour. Well, I thought it was funny. Not uproarious, you understand, more a quiet chuckle.
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Boreades


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An opportunity has arisen for AEL to get into the Unauthorised/Revisionist Tour Guide business.

A detailed marketing plan has been developed reflecting priorities identified by Salisbury tourism businesses, and in-line with Discover England Fund and GREAT funding and activity requirements. Including meeting the 20% cash match funding requirement. This consists of a range of consumer, travel trade and press/influencer marketing activity. Where possible, above-the-line consumer marketing activity that was scheduled to take place soon after the Amesbury incident has been postponed. It will be re-scheduled when the city is fully back in recovery. Other marketing activity that has not been postponed includes media liaison, travel trade work, social, press visits for international, travel trade, leisure/travel magazines. Please let us know if you have ideas for further marketing activity, or if you would like to contribute support for any of the campaign activity.


Bids could be made for the Unauthorised Tour Guide to Salisbury. Printed copies to be available on Amazon.co.uk

Draft itinerary?

On your left: the Queen Elizabeth Park and the bench where they were found.

On your right:, the bus depot that was one of many of the secret Spitfire factories in Salisbury and towns in Wiltshire.
https://www.secretspitfires.com/
https://vimeo.com/223337895

(a mile and a bit north)

On your left: the old High Post airfield where this very month there have been explosions at the Chemring Countermeasures weapons manufacturing site. Which has no connection.

On your right: the road to Porton Down.

(two miles further north)

On your left: Muggleton Road, where the unfortunate Charlie Rowley lived. This definitely has no connection to J.K.Rowling's Muggles and any ton they may have lived in. Or any ironic suggestions about the aptness of the name for people who pick up things not knowing what they contain or what sinister magic makes them work.

On your right: the perimeter fence to MOD Boscombe Down, which also definitely has no connection.

(a mile west)

On your left: the Coneybury Henge and the Coneybury Crop Circle, overlooking Stonehenge.

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2018/coneyburyhill/coneyburyhill2018a.html

We hope you have enjoyed your Unauthorised Tour of Salisbury. Please take all your belongings with you. Don't leave anything behind, because that will just scare the shit out of us.

If you would like to join the Unauthorised Tour of Wiltshire, it starts with Stonehenge airport, the ghost town of Imber, and then onto the home for the Waffen SS in Devizes, at a time when there were more German troops in Britain than British ones.
https://wartimememoriesproject.com/ww2/pow/powcamp.php?pid=2962

After that it goes onto the Corsham Tunnels, where very important stuff is still kept hidden. Like the Strategic Steam Reserve. And Octavian's Corsham Cellars, where there are 1.5million cases of collectors' wine worth over £1billion.

Thank you and we hope you have a good day.
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Hatty
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Robert Fisk wrote that Churchill had serious misgivings about the establishment of a militaristic, expansionist state in the Middle East. It's not clear if those were Churchill's exact words but he presumably had the Partition of India in mind and reached the proper conclusion.

Churchill is not considered antisemitic but his opinion didn't matter anyway as in 1948 Labour was in government and for some reason veered away from the F.O. traditional pro-Arab stance.
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Ishmael


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Hatty wrote:
Robert Fisk wrote that Churchill had serious misgivings about the establishment of a militaristic, expansionist state in the Middle East.


Yeah. Those Jews sure have expanded. All the way to the approximate geographic dimensions of Prince Edward Island.
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Mick Harper
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Was Prince Edward Island inhabited since time immemorial by Arabs? I forget. Anyway, who cares about a bunch of penguins. No wait, I'm thinking of South Georgia. As you were!
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Mark Twain traveled to the so-called Holy Land in the late 19th century. He records what he saw in his book Innocents Abroad. His report? A naked wasteland, sparsely populated by the most disadvantaged wretches he had ever encountered.
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