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Chad
In: Ramsbottom
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And more often than not, correct!
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Hatty
Site Admin
In: Berkshire
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It may come as something of a surprise to find the church at Avebury is not dedicated to St. Michael, or even St. George, but to St. James. James is the patron saint of Spain, a country with strong Megalithic links to Britain, and a long history of tin-mining. James is also the patron saint of blacksmiths and so linked to metallurgy and horses.
The three saints, Michael, George and James, have an interesting link with the heroic horse-and-rider triumphing over evil theme. We are familiar with St George and St Michael in this role but St. James, the Moor-slayer, appeared on a white horse in the sky above the Battle of Clavijo. Clavo in Spanish means hammer and Clavijo sounds like 'Son (hijo) of hammer'. All this suggests that St James was originally Spain's Thor, the hammer-throwing god of thunder. The connection is made explicit in Christian iconography because St. James was one of the 'Sons of Thunder' (Zebedee).
The Sons of Thunder are twins and St. James's twin as Moor-slayer was San Millon, who likewise rode a white horse across the sky. San Millon's monastery at Suso is said to be the "cradle of the Spanish language", at least it is said to be where the language was first written down and recorded. Milon is Hebrew for dictionary.
In Irish legend, the first Celts were Milesians or the sons of Mil, a Scythian ruler who died in Spain, came to Ireland on the feast of Beltane. Not sure if any connection with San Millon.
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DPCrisp
In: Bedfordshire
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| So it's nothing to do with the Marquess of Queensberry then? |
It's not like Queensberry invented boxing or even codified it for the first time doh izit.
| By the way, I'm correct in assuming you weren't being serious, aint I? |
The mythology really does say Pollux was a boxer.
| Probably from Low German duus, a throw of two in dice games, bad luck, ultimately from Latin duo, two. |
They say dice is from die from d�, d�s from datum, something given. A likely story. Dice ought to be something 'dual': the paired faces summing to 7 presumably.
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Ishmael
In: Toronto
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| Hatty wrote: | | It may come as something of a surprise to find the church at Avebury is not dedicated to St. Michael... |
Is this from the new book?
If so, I think you should go into greater detail regarding the Sons of Thunder thing. Our group has put together a lot of info on James and John and, to my knowledge, their association with Castor and Pollux is original to us.
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Hatty
Site Admin
In: Berkshire
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| Is this from the new book? |
Sorry, should've added an explanatory PS. It was for Mick's benefit, for correction and clarification purposes.
| Our group has put together a lot of info on James and John and, to my knowledge, their association with Castor and Pollux is original to us. |
Yes, but that would be stealing Dan's thunder. And too obscure for walkers. They've got enough to contend with what with tame swans and Hermes.
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DPCrisp
In: Bedfordshire
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| James is the patron saint of Spain... originally Spain's Thor, the hammer-throwing god of thunder... |
Ah-hah, so that's why Heracles, the "Greek" club-wielding son of the Thunder God, has so much to do with Iberia and the far west: the Pillars, his daughter buried in the Pyrenees, chasing the Hind to the west, going with Jason quite possibly to the west, set-to with Atlas...
Or vice versa.
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Hatty
Site Admin
In: Berkshire
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Actually it was Dan who first pointed out that Mildenhall on the Kennett in Suffolk was also near the Ridgeway aka Icknield Way.
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